mr. powell, thanks again for you being here today. if i could just start with some questions to you -- >> yes, sir. >> it's kind of interesting. reviewing your testimony and also mr. wileys, you both used very similar language in spots. and in your opening statement you said that this market requires a greater degree of business flexibility, fewer p prescriptive rules. technology-neutral basis and creates a better investment climate. i also saw that mr. wiley also had said in his testimony about the government can't keep up and there's a need for flexibility and technology-neutral framework in his testimony. so, very similar language. in your testimony when you go through it, i find it interesting because you're going through your seven points and for simplist simplicity. since 1996 we've seen $1 trillion invested in internet infrastructure. and then you also laid out the simplicity that has to be there. but also in that simplicity, you said practicing simplicity can be scary. it takes courage to discard old ideas and rules that aren't

mr. powell, thanks again for you being here today. if i could just start with some questions to you -- >> yes, sir. >> it's kind of interesting. reviewing your testimony and also mr. wileys, you both used very similar language in spots. and in your opening statement you said that this market requires a greater degree of business flexibility, fewer p prescriptive rules. technology-neutral basis and creates a better investment climate. i also saw that mr. wiley also had said in his testimony about the government can't keep up and there's a need for flexibility and technology-neutral framework in his testimony. so, very similar language. in your testimony when you go through it, i find it interesting because you're going through your seven points and for simplist simplicity. since 1996 we've seen $1 trillion invested in internet infrastructure. and then you also laid out the simplicity that has to be there. but also in that simplicity, you said practicing simplicity can be scary. it takes courage to discard old ideas and rules that aren't

mr. powell, columnist for "the new york times." you've been covering this as well. all right. a lot of players, we learned some stuff today. what are big things we learned as we sift through these e-mails, michael? i'll start with you. >> that traffic study the governor talks about wasn't really much of a study, as you say. if you close lanes, you get a lot of traffic, especially on the busiest bridge in the country. and it was four pages long. >> it's four pages long. it's also provided, if i'm not mistaken, on the third day of this whole brouhaha after you have andrew cuomo's amoinesppoin the new york side losing his mind about what's going on. >> they gave it some time. >> right. right. so, yeah, the traffic study, there are documents there, punitively. it's a small powerpoint that made up a traffic study, but it's not anything. >> no. it is nothing. i mean, and it really -- for the governor to say, you know, there may have been a traffic study, you know, i mean, he would be raging at paying anything for this traffic study. >> bob? >> i think the -- today's documents just m

mr. powell's chairmanship they saw a significant increase in the deployment of broad band to american homes as well as convergence of services toward the development of broadband -- toward the bundles of services common today. chairman powell thank you for joining us today, and please go ahead. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and as a former chairman, i'm happy to be sitting around with a bunch of these other chairmen, offering as best we can our historic perspectives on how to prudently go about rewriting the act should that be your intention. and i'm pleased to be with ranking member eshoo again and all the distinguished members of the committee. i think it goes without saying and all of us will say it in different ways that the world has changed quite radically from 20 years ago in terms of markets and services but don't ask us, ask your kids. ask them to name three broadcast networks, if you will, ask them to do without the internet for a week, and for god sakes ask them to put their phone down at dinner and see what you reaction you get. i think you'll be convinced. that transformation has

mr. hundt? >> as chairman powell said, section 1706 is very broad, and i think that it is an opportunity and duty for the fcc to dig into it and to create an appropriate framework with the help of this committee and its counterpart in the senate. if i might continue your theme of rural america, there are a number of other provisions as well in the '96 act that the fcc can use to try to achieve the goal of completely widespread broadband even in rural and high-cost areas and one that i would identify is the current proceeding to reimagine the erate. the erate -- i just recently met with the chief librarian in puma county, arizona, which isn't very far away from you and you know the geography is not dissimilar. they have a fantastic system of broadband for not just the central library in tucson but all of the branch libraries. all over this sparsely populated geography. the library is the number one public internet access point in southern arizona. therefore, it's the proper focus of extra erate support and the proper focus of the combination of network architectures that might resemble what chairm

mr. powell's chairmanship they saw a significant increase in the deployment of broad band to american homes as well as convergence of services toward the development of broadband -- toward the bundles of services common today. chairman powell thank you for joining us today, and please go ahead. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and as a former chairman, i'm happy to be sitting around with a bunch of these other chairmen, offering as best we can our historic perspectives on how to prudently go about rewriting the act should that be your intention. and i'm pleased to be with ranking member eshoo again and all the distinguished members of the committee. i think it goes without saying and all of us will say it in different ways that the world has changed quite radically from 20 years ago in terms of markets and services but don't ask us, ask your kids. ask them to name three broadcast networks, if you will, ask them to do without the internet for a week, and for god sakes ask them to put their phone down at dinner and see what you reaction you get. i think you'll be convinced. that transformation has

mr. snowden? >> i worked in the bush administration for secretary powells and rice. had top level security chlorrance and snowden did as well. when you take that oath, you understand that it is people and american's lives and foreign assets are at risk when you release information. you can't know the consequences of what you do. and you have to prosecute snowden fully for what he's done because he put lives at risk. >> all of us might agree that snowden is no hero in terms of what he has done, but while he's no hero, he did commit a crime. he's done a great service to all of us by illuminating the trampling of every right of the americans in being spied on and that is clearly unconstitutional. >> great to have you here and terrific conversation with you. emily and ebonnie thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> (applause) >>> why is this man wearing nothing but a pink tu- tu in the middle of the new york times square. he is doing all of this for a good cause. you wonder what it is. you will meet him and hear his remarkab al-qaeda's efforts to concert pour in iraq. now

mr. baker i am very interested in your findings about the role of colin powell in the lead-up to the iraqar. i always felt he was very reluctant to go before. i believe he went to testify about the weapons of mass destruction etc., etc.. my feeling was that if he had resigned in protest as to what they were doing in the lead-up situation, things may have been different. >> guest: that's a good question in a very important one. in fact his deputy secretary of state richard armitage one point did, i read the review on the bug urge call him told to resign the argument being that the white house is using powell as cover for policies that otherwise wouldn't get as much public support, but secretary powell didn't see it that way. he didn't resign obviously. believed in being a good soldier and the truth is you're right, he was relied and about it but he never actually said no. he went to the president and brought along list he had written out on a long yellow legal pad of the different consequences of the war and thinks he thought the present up to consider before going to war. if you break it

mr. baker, i am very interested in your findings about the role of colin powell in the lead up to the iraqiays felt he was very reluctant to go before -- i believe he testified about the weapons of mass destruction, at such a. my feeling was that if he had resigned in protest as to what they were doing in that the debt situation things may have been different. >> that's a good question and an important one. in fact, his deputy secretary of state at one point did, we reveal in the book, urge : bell to resign thinking that -- the argument being that the white house is using dollars a cover for policies that otherwise would not get as much public support. secretary paul did not see it that way. he did not resign, obviously. he spent a lifetime in the military and believe in being a good soldier. the truth is, he was reluctant about the iraqi war but never actually said no. he went to the president, brought along was that he had written out a long legal battle of the different possible consequences of work, things that he thought the president ought to consider before going to war. he called it

mr. sharon's body is lying in state. tomorrow is his memorial. the u.s. delegation will be led by vice president biden. c conor powellmore. >> reporter: today across cross the country flags are at half-staff. sharon's cass set is lying instate. they're coming to pay their final respects to ariel sharon. later today his coffin will be covered up and then tomorrow there will be a small service here. vice president joe biden will meet the american delegation for the service here tomorrow. then it will be moved -- the casket will be moved to his southern farm in israel where he'll be buried next to his second wife. he lead a very complicated life. he was a man who was hailed in the military but also a controversial leader who hid in shame. he also promoted settlements and as prime minister turned around and withdrew them from gaza. it was a scene of jews pulling jewels out of gaza. it shocked not only the country but the world. he leaves a mixed legacy here. but one thing everyone across the country said, he was a leader, he made tough decisions when tough decisions were needed and that is something most israelis say is

mr. copps is my hero. i watched him some time back when william powell, colin powell's son was sitting on the tord pretty much trying throw the fcc under the bus, as far as i was concerned. that observing all of this, me as a consumer, customer, i go to places like abc, link tv which i contribute to in order to get news -- bbc, link tv that i contribute to or al jazeera. i do this because i cannot get content that is informative in this country because it is owned by big business. here is mr. mcdowell tried to calmly thatt -- these companies have the right to come into the internet, which taxpayer subsidized, even though the military comes out with it, and they basically want to privatize this. control thel content now. another place to go to for news, of course, in the internet. now when i go to the internet i will have to be concern i would access tonal have independent content because these would have to be noted as not-competitive -- i would have access to independent content. who is going to prove it? how many lawyers will it take to disprove it? it is just ridiculous. host: i think that appointment let'

mr. copps is my hero. i watched him sometime back when william powell, colin powells son was sitting on the board pretty much throwing the fcc, trying to do the fcc under the bus, as far as i was concerned. and i have to say that absorbing all this, me as a consumer, customer, i go to places like cbc, link tv which i contributed in order to get news that's not mandated or put out by big media, or al-jazeera. but i do this because i cannot get content that is informative in this country because it is owned by big business. and here is mr. mcdowell trying to say calmly at these companies have the right to come to the internet, which the taxpayers subsidy, although the military came up with it and now they want to privatize this. so they will control the content now. another place i go to for news of course is the internet. now when a cookie in it i have to be concerned that i won't have access to independent content either because he's saying something maybe we'll have to be either anti-confederate or blah, blah, blah. the courts will probably say it's a start, then i competitive because who's going to prove i

mr. copps is my hero. i watched him some time back when william powell, colin powell's son was sitting on the tord pretty much trying throw the fcc under the bus, as far as i was concerned. that observing all of this, me as a consumer, customer, i go to places like abc, link tv which i contribute to in order to get news -- bbc, link tv that i contribute to or al jazeera. i do this because i cannot get content that is informative in this country because it is owned by big business. here is mr. mcdowell tried to calmly thatt -- these companies have the right to come into the internet, which taxpayer subsidized, even though the military comes out with it, and they basically want to privatize this. control thel content now. another place to go to for news, of course, in the internet. now when i go to the internet i will have to be concern i would access tonal have independent content because these would have to be noted as not-competitive -- i would have access to independent content. who is going to prove it? how many lawyers will it take to disprove it? it is just ridiculous. host: i think that appointment let'