. >> mr. prattca proudly boasts the worst level of gun violence in the industrialized world? >> well, we don't, as a matter of fact. and -- >> we don't? >> no, we don't. actually, violent crime overall is much greater in your home country than it is here. >> i'm talking about -- sorry, sir. forgive me, sir. we're talking about -- we're -- sorry, sir. just to be clear, because i understand the point you're making. what i'm talking about is murder using firearms. >> all right. let's talk about murder in fairfax county. the rate there per 100,000 is 1 per 100,000. over here in washington, d.c., where i am nervously sitting right now, it's 17 1/2 per 100,000, and that's primarily because it's substantially a gun-free zone. you can't have a gun at the navy yard, because you can't take it out of your dwelling. you can't have one at a military installation anyway, because of since george bush the 1st was in office, he said no guns at any military installation in our country. so among the things we heard in