mr. pudzer, you talk about the certainty factor in your book. >> guest: yes. well, at the time we wrote it back in 2009, 2010, there was a lot of uncertainty in the economy because of actions that president obama was taking, but went along processsive lines as opposed to conservative economic lines which i think the business community would have preferred. so with respect to tax, with respect to energy, with respect to regulation there was great uncertainty in the business community about where the government was going and what kind of an obstacle it would become. so we tried to convey the message the government would provide some positive certainty so we could rise out of the recession -- we will still in the recession until june of 2009 so we were out of it technically but i don't think people for years felt we were actually out of it in reality. you want that kind of dynamic economic growth that you're expecting out of a recession you have to do some positive things and give the business community some certainty you're not going hurt them. >> host: what are