mr. quigley for something -- director comey: can i ask the estimated time? i am not made of steel so i might take a quick break? mr. nunes: would you like to do that now? i think we want to keep going until members ask their questions. director comey: just a quick rest stop. mr. nunes: we'll break for about 10 minutes. director comey: that's plenty. >> house intelligence committee hearing on russian tampering in the november elections taking a brief break, about a 10-minute break. it will be the first one of the hearing. we will continue with testimony from f.b.i. director james comey and n.s.a. director admiral mike rogers when they return in just a couple moments. by the way, if you missed any of the hearing, it started this morning at 10:00. we will reair in its entirety tonight starting at 8:00 eastern here on c-span. also, you can go to our website to watch it, go to c-span.org and type in the house intelligence committee in the search bar. there are a couple of tweets from president trump's official accounts. this tweet, f.b.i. director comey refusing t

mr. quigley. >> thank you, mr. ranking member. gentlemen, thank you for your service, and thank you for being here. we've talked a little bit about the russian playbook, right? extortion, bribery, false news, disinformation. they all sound very familiar, correct? well, as we talked without thinking about anybody in the united states, just generally the russian playbook and how it's worked in, particularly eastern europe and central europe, a lot of it involves trying to influence individuals in that country, correct? >> yes. >> so what we've talked about a little bit today seems to be sort of a black and white notion of whether there was collusion, but does a russian active measure attempting to succeed at collusion -- does the person involved have to actually know? does it have to involve knowing collusion for there to be damage? >> i can answer generally in the world of intelligence. oftentimes there are people who are called cooptees who don't realize they're dealing with agents of a foreign power, and so are doing things for s

mr. quigley. >> thank you, mr. ranking member. gentlemen, thank you for your service, thank you for being here. we've talked a little bit about the russian playbook, right, extortion, bribery, false news, disinformation, they all sound very familiar, correct? well as we talk without think being anybody in the united states, just generally the russian playbook and how it's worked in, particularly eastern europe and central europe, a lot of it involves trying to influence individuals in that country, correct? >> yes. >> so what we've talked about a little bit today seems to be sort of a black and white notion of whether there was collusion, but does a russian active measure attempting to succeed at collusion, does the person involved have to actually know? does it have to involve knowing collusion for there to be damage? >> i can answer generally, in the world of intelligence oftentimes there are people who are called cooptees who don't realize they're dealing with agents of a foreign power and so are doing things for someone they t

mr. quigley of illinois side the evidence he's seen amounts to probable cause to use an old courtroom lawyer's terminology to suspect confirmed ties between team trump and the russians. would you agree to that same wording? >> different people have seen different levels of this material. you saw that the ranking member, adam schiff, said -- and he's a member of the gang of eight -- they get to see so stuff that is highly sensitive that regular committee members don't, at least immediaty. so i take adam at his word. there is clearly something here, as he said that, makes it at at some point more than circumstantial, but i don't think it's time for us to be characterizing the evidence yet because this investigation is still very much in the phase of gathering that evidence. >> before i let you go, a quick prediction, up or down vote tomorrow on health care? >> i notice you've been pressing members of congress on the question. i will tell you this. it looks like a real uphill fight. you know, they've lost a lot of the freedom caucus members and it's not getting as much attention. you talked to le

mr. quigley. >> thank you for your service and thank you for being here. we talked a little about the russian playbook, extortion, bribery, false news, disinformation, they all sound very familiar. as we talk without thinking anybody in the united states, just generally, the russian playbook and how it has worked particularly in eastern europe and central europe, a lot of it involves trying to influence individuals in that country, correct? adm. rogers: yes. but we talked about today seems to be a black-and-white notion of whether there was does a russian active measure attempting to succeed at collusion -- does the person involved have to actually know? does it have to involve knowing collusion for there to be damage? i can answer generally in the world of intelligence, often times, there are people who are called co-op tees, who don't realize they are doing with a foreign power. they are doing things and not realizing it's for the foreign government. it can happen. it's a frequent technique. >> is that the aunt that to include things where the actor does

mr. quigley for entering something into the record. >> mr. chairman, can i ask you an estimated time, i'm not made of steel, so i might need to take a quick break. >> would you like to do that now? >> if you k. i don't know how much longer you plan to go. >> i think we wan to keep going until members have asked all of their questions. >> okay. just a quick rest stop. >> we loaf this now. you could see the rest at c-span.org or all of it at 8:30 eastern tonight on c-span 2. we go live now to louisville, kentucky, where president trump is holding a rally. ♪ ♪ ♪ proud to be an american, where at least i know i'm free ♪ ♪ and i won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me ♪ and i'll gladly stand up next to you, and defend her still today ♪ because there ain't no doubt -- ♪ god bless the usa ♪ ♪ ♪ [ cheering and applause ] >> thank you. thank you, everybody. i am thrilled to be hour in the great state of kentucky and the beautiful city of louisville. and this place is packed. there are a lot of people outside that aren't getting in, but

mr. quigley's line of questioning, we might know news -- can guess who's next. >> thank you for your service to our country. i think it is important as we sit here that we explain this to the american people in a way they can understand. why are we talking about all of this? is russiauestion is our adversary? rogers >> yes. did they intend to do us -- >> did they intend to do us harm? gainrogers: they intend to an advantage at our expense. dir. comey: harm can have many meetings. they want to resist us, under minus in a lot of different waves. -- it blends conventional -- wouldcyber warfare, you say that russia engaged in hybrid warfare in an effort to undermine our democratic process and engage in our electoral process? i don't think i would use the term warfare. you would want to ask experts. they engage in a campaign to undermine democracy in her one of the candidates. >> i would agree with the director. >> i think there act was an engagement of hybrid warfare. in terms of trying to understand web withhink a spider . trench in the middle the durantula in the middle is vladimir putin who i

mr. quigley for answering something into the record. >> can i ask you an estimated time. i'm not made of steel, i may have to take a quick break. >> would you like to do that now? >> if you can. i didn't know how much longer you planned to go. >> i think we want to keep going until members have asked all their questions. >> ok. just a quick rest stop? >> yes, we'll break for about ten minutes? >> that's plenty. [indiscernible] a -- you have been asked a number of questions about is it enough to open an investigation because of someone travels? or someone has their photograph taken or they attend a conference. i imagine you get so many leads -- as many people writing to you with information that they are convinced that it is a crime. if you investigate every thing that is sent to you, you would be squandering your investigative resources. and correct meg if i'm wrong, and order for you to open an investigation, you need to see credible information or evidence that someone has either committed a federal crime or become an agent of a foreign power. is that accurate? >> we ge

mr. quigley. >> thank you, mr. ranking member. thank you for service. thank you for being here. we've talked a little bit about the russian playbook, right, extortion, bribery, false news, disinformation. russian playbook how it's worked in eastern europa central eur e europe, a lot of it involves trying to influence individuals in that country. correct? >> yes. >> so it seems to be a black and white notion of whether there was collusion but does a russian active measure trying to attempt at succeeding in collusion, does the person involve actually have to know? does it have to involve knowing collusion for there to be damage? >> generally in the world of intelligence often times there are people who are called co-optees who don't realize they're dealing with agents for a foreign power and they're doing things for someone that they think is a friend, a business associate, not realizing it's for the foreign government. it can happen. it's actually quite a frequent technique. >> and is it beyond that sometimes to include things where the actor doesn't necessarily know what they're

mr. quigley's line of questioning, we might guess who could be next. mr. chairman. mr. ranking member, i yield back. >> i yield the balance to representative -- >> thank you, ranking member. thank you, gentlemen, for your service to our country. you know, i think it's really important as we sit here that we explain this to the american people in a way that they can understand it. why are we talking about all of this? my first question to each of you is russia our adversary? mr. comey? >> yes. >> mr. rogers? >> yes. >> is -- do they intend to do us harm? >> they intend to insure, i believe, that they gained advantage at our expense. >> director comey? >> yes. i want to be -- harm can have many meanings. they're an adversary, and they want to resist us, oppose us, underminus in lots of different ways. >> one of the terms that we hear often is hybrid warfare, and i would like to just give a short definition of what it is. it blends conventional warfare, irregular warfare, and cyber warfare. the aggressor intends to avoid attribution or retribution. would you say that russi

mr. quigley's line of questioning, we might guess who could be next. mr. chairman, mr. ranking member, i yield back. >> i yield the balance to representative spear. >> thank you ranking member, thank you, gentlemen, for your service to our country. you know, i think it's really important as we sit here that we explain this to the american people in a way they can understand it. why are we talking about all of this? so my first question to each of you is, is russia our adversary, mr. comey? >> yes. >> mr. rogers? >> yes. >> do they intend to do us harm? >> they intend to ensure i believe that they gain advantage at our expense. >> director comey? >> yes, i want to be, harm can have many meanings. they're an adversary to we want to resist us, oppose, undermine us in lots of different ways. >> so one of the terms that we hear often is hybrid warfare, and i'd like to just give a short definition of what it is. it blends conventional warfare, irregular warfare, and cyber warfare. the aggressor intends to avoid attribution or retribution. so would you say that russia engaged

mr. quigley for entering something into the record. >> mr. chairman, can i ask you an estimated time, i'm not made of steel, so i might need to take a quick break. >> would you like to do that now? >> if you k. i don't know how much longer you plan to go. >> i think we wan to keep going until members have asked all of their questions. >> okay. just a quick rest stop. >> we loaf this now. you could see the rest at c-span.org or all of it at 8:30 eastern tonight on c-span 2. we go live now to louisville, kentucky, where president trump is holding a rally. ♪ ♪ ♪ proud to be an american, where at least i know i'm

mr. quigley. >> thank you, mr. ranking member. gentlemen, thank you for service, thank you for being here. we have talked a little bit about the russian playbook, right, extortion, bribery, false news, disinformation, all sounds very familiar, correct? as we talk without thinking about anybody in the united states, just generally the russian playbook and how it is worked in, particularly eastern europe and central europe, a lot of it involves trying to influence individuals in that country, correct? >> yes. >> so what we have talked about a little bit today seems to be sort of a black and white notion of whether there was collusion. but does a russian active measure attempting to succeed at collusion, does the person involved have to actually know? does it have to involve knowing collusion for there to be damage? >> i can answer generally in the world of intelligence, oftentimes there are people who are called co-optees, who are acting -- don't realize they're dealing with agents of a foreign power and are doing things for someone

mr. quigley's line of questioning we might guess who could be next. >> mr. chairman, mr. ranking member, i yield back. >> i yield the balance to representative spehr. >> thank you ranking member. thank you, gentlemen, for your service to our country. you know, i think it's really important as we sit here that we explain this to the american people in a way that they can understand it. why are we talking about all of this? so my first question to each of you is, is russia our adversary? mr. comey? >> yes. >> mr. rogers? >> yes. >> do they intend to do us harm? >> they intend to ensure, i believe, that they gain advantage at our expense. >> director comey? >> yes. i want to be -- harm can have many meanings. they are an adversary so they want to resist us, oppose us, underminus in lots of different ways. >> so one of the terms that we hear often is hybrid warfare. and i'd like to just give a short definition of what it is. it blends conventional warfare, irregular warfare, and cyber warfare. the aggressor intends to avoid attribution or retribution. so would you say that ru

mr. quigley: a task not welcomed but necessitated by the president's seemingly baseless accusations that the obama administration wiretapped trump tower during the presidential campaign. these accusations should be taken literally and seriously. as a member of the intelligence committee, i see absolutely no evidence that supports the president's claim. president trump and the department of justice have a responsibility to completely clarify the president's statement on twitter. that the white house and department of justice are unable to produce this evidence, as i suspect will be the case, the president owes the american people a thorough and immediate explanation and apology. thank you. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. for what purpose does the gentleman from georgia seek recognition? >> request unanimous consent to address the house for one minute. revise and extend my remarks. the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the gentleman from georgia is recognized for one mefpblet >> thank you, mr. speaker. today i rise in support of the v.a. accountabili

mr. quigley's line of questioning, we might guess who could be next. mr. chairman, mr.ranking member, i yield back. >> i yield the balance to representative spear. >> thank you, ranking member. thank you, gentlemen for your service to our country. you know i think it is really important as we sit here that we explain this to the american people in a way that they can understand it. why are we talking about all of this. so my first question to each of you is, is russia our adversary? mr. comey? >> yes. >> mr. rogers? >> yes. >> is, do they intend to do us harm? >> they intend to insure i believe that they gain advantage at our expense. >> director comey? >> yes. i want to be, harm can have many meanings. they're an adversary. so they want to resist us, oppose us, underminus, in a lots of different ways. >> one of the terms we hear often is hybrid warfare. and i'd like to just give a short definition of what it is. it blends conventional warfare, iraq lar warfare and cyber warfare aggressor intends to avoid attribution or retribution so would you say that russia engaged i

mr. quigley: thank you, mr. speaker. tomorrow we will celebrate seven years since the president signed the affordable care act into law. the following day my colleagues across the aisle will vote to eradicate the undei insideable progress it has -- undeniable progress it has made. when we vote on the american health care act we will vote to take away health insurance from millions of americans. we will vote to raise premiums on seniors. we will vote to damage women's health care programs, and we will vote to reduce access to care for lbtq people. -- lgbtq people. policies that were considered socialists are now mainstream, considering popular parts of the a.c.a. are retained in the republican replacement. the majority of the country doesn't want to repeal a.c.a. but improve it in a bipartisan way. the only way to create a meaningful change for the american people is to work together across the aisle. as lincoln said, we cannot escape history. we will be remembered in spite of ourselves, and a vote to repeal a.c.a. will b

mr. quigley for answering something into the record. >> can i ask you an estimated time. i'm not made of steel, i may have to take a quick break. >> would you like to do that now? >> if you can. i didn't know how much longer you planned to go. >> i think we want to keep going until members have asked all their questions. >> ok. just a quick rest stop? >> yes, we'll break for about ten minutes? >> that's plenty. [indiscernible] a >> you can see the rest of that hearing with fbi director james comey online at c-span.org. the house intelligence committee was supposed to have a public hearing with former obama administration officials this week as part of its investigation into russian interference during the 2016 collection. on friday, committee chaired devin nunes announced it was canceled and a closed session would take place and stead. that is a move representative adam schiff, the top democrat on the committee has since said is not in the public's interest. on face the nation, representative trey gowdy, who sits on the intelligence committee, was asked about where the in

mr. quigley for answering something into the record. >> can i ask you an estimated time. i'm not made of steel, i may have to take a quick break. >> would you like to do that now? >> if you can. i didn't know how much longer you planned to go. >> i think we want to keep going until members have asked all their questions. >> ok. just a quick rest stop? >> yes, we'll break for about ten minutes? >> that's plenty.

mr. nunes, go talk to democrats. we are about to bring in mike quigley, democratic member of the house intelligence committee. a pleasure to talk to you. welcome. >> thank you. >> you are a colleague, ranking member of your committee is openly questioning whether or not the white house blocked sally yates from testifying. do you believe that to be the case? >> absolutely. with the greatest respect, this isn't democrats or republicans. you can look at truth versus ab shut fantasy land. i don't know what mr. spicer is looking at. it is very obvious the white house wanted this open meeting cancels. they did not want miss rogers, miss yates to speak. they didn't want a repeat of last week's disastrous first meeting in which director comey said there is an investigation. the russians attempted to help the trump campaign and hurt mrs. clinton. there was no truth in the fabrication that president obama wiretapped trump tower. those are facts we have ascertained. the fact that the white house has a two-prong attack is pretty obvious, obstruction and distraction. >> you say it is obvious. would you consider that move

mr. sessions had a third contact with the russians and didn't tell anyone, it's very clear we're going to need all three. >> illinois democratic congressman, mike quigley, thank you very much at the end of a long day for joining us on our broadcast. we appreciate it. >> glad to, thank you. >> let's bring in the members of our panel tonight to kick things off. political white house correspondent eli stokol and in washington, former cia and defense department chief of staff, jeremy bash, once chief counsel to the house intelligence committee. jeremy, you and i were on the air earlier today and i want to get you to expand on your comments. you said this action by the chairman of the intelligence committee reversed all known standards of behavior. >> there's to 40-year tradition, brian, of the house intelligence being bipartisan, in effect, nonpartisan, providing oversight on behalf of the american people for the secret intelligence operations of our government. our systems of checks and balances only this congressional committee can do it. and so it really requires professionalism, it requires professional comedy and requires working together between demo