so, mr. qwang and mr. ruber cannot explain why they were issued for 417 gonzales drive which were over here and there were no signs posted and nobody recalls seeing the signs torn down. yet, the work was done about 150 yards away on brotherhood way and a number of trees were lost and we lost a number of significant trees during a two-week period until we had to go and i am going to go to this e-mail here. and we had to go through norman yee's office. who is or district 7 supervisor and we had, and i don't know if you can see this here. we had to go through supervisor norman yee's office how in order to get the information on the permits because mr. john qwang from dpw would not give us that information. and we had, we were stalled for two weeks before we could get permit information and we believe that is manifest injustice. and we believe that we were denied due process to contest the work that we had already started. we had started work for two weeks, that we did not get a chance to contest these permits