mr. ramsey. >> guest: i think it's good. as he said, you can guarantee that companies are going to be having a dialogue. hopefully it's not -- it ought to be a dialogue, you know? there should be a give and take, a listening and an exchange of thoughts, concerns, ideas. and so that's what i would, that's what i would say. whoever's chairing this committee whether it's upton or whether it's barton, you know, we look for that active exchange. there are serious issues that have to be addressed. we know that privacy concerns are increasingly raised, there are other issues around trade that get raised. i think that it's good to have that kind of exchange. >> host: mr. barton in that interview also talked about more oversight of the fcc. >> guest: yes. well, look, that's the prerogative of congress in the terms of having oversight of the fcc. i think the fcc has done some good work, but there's more to be done. i mean, i think that if you spoke to the fcc chair, he would tell you himself there's more that he would like to be getti

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