mr. raphael just a few -- first my congratulations. it's delightful to see city employees excited in knowing they can make a difference. i appreciate that. a few technical questions about the implementation. so does the department have an estimate of how many producers are likely impacted by this ordinance? speaker: supervisor, no, we don't have that information. we built into the ordinance, the requirement that wholesalers and distributors and retail pharmacies, their requirements in the ordinance is to inform the department of the environment, who their producers are, so the way we will collect and understanding of all manufacturers that sell covered drugs, and the program is by relying on -- according to the ordinance, our retail partners to provide information to us of who their providers are and wholesalers so we'll collect that answer based on responses from the retailers and wholesalers or distrib ters. -- distributors. speaker: you don't know how many there are. there's some in nor way and switzerland. you're correct that we do

mr. raphael said earlier it's something we can do now in the short term. i do support the ordinance. i do have some considerations. i don't think they're going to hold us up. but there's something i would like to discuss and they're administrative as we spoke earlier. i think in terms of time for implementation, my preference is i think san francisco wants to lead not only in intention, but also in methodology. i think we want to lead with something that's going to work, so i have some concerns about the timelines that has been set aside because we're basically asking these producers to become aware of the program, to identify or create a stewardship program, to fund the organization that's going to do the stewardship, staff it, to notify all of the retailers and the police enforcement agencies of opportunity to participate, to arrange for a disposal method, to design outreach and to get approval for their plan which is going to take three months and to implement it in a 12 month period. that sounds a little ambitious. and while i'm sure we can crack the whip, i would like to discuss