mr. reich's sentiments are well represented in washington. actually want to see more money spent, not less. it's just that who has the discretion to spend it? that's the issue. when the government spends it, they malinvest it. we don't have the problem because there's not enough consumption or spending. that is not going to solve the problem. what we should have done is maybe suspend the income tax for three years. it wouldincome tax for years. it would have cost us less than dealing out the big banks and special interests. it would be more money. the people could make a decision on whether they should liquidate their dit and how they would invest. >> let me agree -- >> larry: address the stimulus. do that quickly, robert. >> i want to agree with the congressman on one point. bailing out the big banks instead of helping main streak was a version of trickle down economics and it doesn't work. >> larry: okay. we're scheduled to discuss the stimulus and we'll begin by showing you an interview with diane sawyer that aired on abc tonight. the pres