i don't think that he gave a coherent answer and mr. renne went on to say that felt that all city bodies should follow this policy and he would consider it a willful violation if they failed to do so. but what they have done is exactly leave themselves in the position where they can simply go back and start leaving them out of the minutes and they can get the addendums just as they have been, what has changed? absolutely nothing. now, last week, mr. st. croix, your executive director appeared before the compliance and the amendment committee in the case involving him and they asked him. is this a policy? no, it is a accommodation to mr. hartz. you are going to put them in to please him. >> they asked him, is there any policy on this? no. there is not. is there anything in writing? no, there is not. and so basically, there are last question was so you are telling us that you can basically just then go back to what you were doing before and mr. hartz will have to go through and fight the battle all over again? >> they are deceitful people and l

. >> the library in the bod y >> the police commission in the bod y the arts commission and mr. renne at the last hearing we had in february said specifically i think that all city bodies should... >> yes. and i think that we are in agreement on that. but you now just said that the library commission is doing it. so then what is the problem? >> because it is arbitrary, my political free speech cannot be what bureau crat decides, and i will not go before the body that i work for and have them discuss it and make a decision, i will do it on a whim and that is what mr. st. croix did. you have not had a discussion about the placements of these? he decided to stop thuting them in and put them in the body and portray it as an accommodation to me. >> commissioner studley? >> in my view there was no violation here of 67.16 because the library commission included the 150-word statements in the minutes. and in my view, in the minutes includes both in the body of the minutes, and in the addendum. one thing that i pointed out the last time is to me, a numbered document from one to... >> it is not