mr. rhoades: yes, sir. mr. mica: that has been documented. the failures of performance and the wait times, and the retaliation for also, for the facts coming out. i don't want to say you revealed them, but those were the facts taking place and some of you are blamed for that? mr. livingston: yes, sir. mr. mica: all three. i am concerned about what is taking place. neffinger has tried to correct the situation. but tsa cannot recruit, it can't train, retain, or schedule, and it cannot manage the huge bureaucracy that has been created. that is part of the problem and it will not be corrected. and those people on the line pull me aside, they said, see those three guys doing nothing. they are making over 100 grand and we are busting our tail trying to process these people and they are having a good time. they are having a good sitdown chat and enjoying themselves. part of the tsa gets to name thousands, standing around, but these guys are sitting around and earning huge salaries while others are doing their work. th

mr. rhoades has done it. not the first time mr. rhoades has done it. i think he did it on the benghazi issue as well when he said in the now famous talking points that became the catalyst and it is rooted in the video. president obama during his campaign went on and on and hammered away and said if i get elected and i will withdraw the troops. i'm going to get in the first 16 months. he went back and read in the first 16 months that will get the combat brigades out of iraq. he was up front about that. he was perfectly clear on that. they experienced both in the u.s. and iran. 340 rabbis and 353 christian leaders. they include physicists who designed the first bomb. we had stone cold experts on this. they were listening to ben rhoades. those are the people that i sat with and one of the experts from the iaea about what he thought after having been in iran and at iraq and at natans and what they thought about the ability of this agreement to stop iran from developing nuclear weapons. those are the people that they are losing to. not ben rhoades and a pol

mr. rhoades? >> if i can say something with that. >> go ahead. >> federal security directors are working with their staff and working with the airports and airlines. we have faced tougher challenges in our history standing up as you well know one of the founders of our agency, i'm confident we'll be able to find workable solutions as long as we're keeping partnership with stake holders. >> you have a lot of good workers out there who should be rewarded. we need a better way of rewarding and retain gs the good tso workers. get rid of some of the bureaucrats at the top who are causing most of the problems. and they've -- i guess over the years they felt threatened, particularly by me because i keep saying my goodness, we have a huge bureaucracy, many of them a few miles from here. and they are very domestic nearing over the domestic emocr. i dealt with them in privatizing one of my airports, i've always left that option open. one of my local airports requested to opt out and then they came down and

mr. andrew rhoades, assistant federal security director for mission support at the minneapolis-st.aul international airport in the office of security operations at the t.s.a.. we welcome you and thank you for being here. if you will please rise and raise your right hand, do you solemnly swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. thank you. you may be seated. let the record reflect that all witnesses answered in the affirmative. in order to allow time for discussion, we would appreciate if you would limit your verbal comment to five minutes. your entire written statement will be entered into the record. we will start with mr. brainard. you are now recognized for five minutes. make sure you bring that microphone up nice and close. you can straighten it out but we want to make sure we get you clearly on audio. thank you, mr. brainard, you're now recognized. mr. brainard: chairman chaffetz ranking member cummings and members of the committee, i'm pleased to appear at the request of this committee today to discu