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you look at the back of report, the report is written as an indictment against michael hayden and mr. rizzoere's perjury. they go into great detail about how michael hayden, the director of the cia, lied to congress and we see it every day in the courts in the united states, my clients are often prosecuted for perjury for much less. i saw 30 counts of perjury my question is why isn't mr. hayden prosecuted. if we follow the rule of law we have to enforce it equally from top to bottom. >> what do you think the legal reaction will be from the international community, carlos, if any. >> well, i think the president has been very clear on this and he's correct that we have to practice what we preach. we cannot go to foreign nations and tell them all the wrong things that they're doing in the world and they can look at this report and nothing in this report came as much of a surprise, it shouldn't, to the public, the bottom line is we knew there was torture going on, it's inhibited our ability to relate to other countries internationally. guantanamo is a horrible black stain and frankly causes the

mr. rizzo, thanks so much for being here this morning. >> i want it go over the tactics that have been revealed in this report. at least those that i can say on morning television let's talk about what has come out. they say, i also want to find out why you wouldn't qualify these as torture. number one, they say the detainees were kept in complete darkness. sometimes for days, sometimes for weeks. in isolation. also, they were kept in freezing temperatures. they believe that it was so cold that it contributed to the death of one of the detainees. also, waterboarding as we've heard so much about. almost to the point of drowning. and also, the sleep deprivation, i hadn't heard the details of what this was like before. but detainees were kept awake sometimes for 180 hours. and the way they were kept awake was having their hands shackled above their heads so they could never be in a position to sleep. if these things don't qualify as torture, what would? >> well first of all, alisyn, just to parse

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great to have you on "the real story," mr. rizzo. >> hello, gretchen. nice to be here. >> so you were the first person to be briefed on interrogation techniques, correct? >> i was the first lawyer in the government to be briefed, yes. >> and you received that memo from the department of justice, correct? >> correct. on august 1st, 2002. so these techniques were carried out. what do you make of the report being released to the general public and to the world now? >> well, i must say, the timing seems disturbing to me, particularly in light of -- i was startled when i read last friday that twuf state john kerry who, after all, is a liberal democrat from my home state of massachusetts, felt compelled to call, extraordinary gesture, called, and apparently at a minimum, give her a very sobering warning or assessment about the possible terrorist threats that release of the report at this time would engender. >> right. the interesting thing that you bring up, members of congress and members of the senate in particular, because much has been made about who was

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and so i think -- i understand why mr. rizzo who is very much a part of this and justifying this would say what he does, i think as you can see from the report itself as well as some of the defenders, these acknowledgments of what was going on were far less than candid with members of congress. >> california democrat representative adam schiff, thank you so much. >>> let's go to other news now. police used pepper spray to break up a disturbance on the campus of western illinois university. it happened after a large fight erupted after a peaceful march. the fights that break out were not related to the march. >>> police have a suspect under arrest in a shooting outside a high school in portland, oregon. the shooting appears to be gang related. three people were sent to the hospital. another student treated at the scene after a bullet grazed her foot. all were either students or in related job training programs. >>> the spirit of santa claus is alive and well in omaha, nebraska. a woman dropped money. the money was for a bank depo

and then i had this exchange with mr. rizzo yesterday.isten to this. >> could you tell us who at the white house wanted to deny this information to the then secretary of state general colin powell? >> the white house counsel at the time was alberto gonzalez. >> later became the attorney general. >> all right. so did you want to keep this information in 2003 away from general powell? >> i don't know whether or not specifically i wanted to keep the information away from general powell. we obviously wanted to limit the number of people that would have -- that would be informed of the decision, only the need to know, but, you know, what we tried to do was to gather as many people as we thought appropriate within the legal circle to make it a calculation sitting down with the lawyers and the justice department in terms of deciding what, in fact, could be done under the law because what we're trying to do here, wolf, is to find a way to gather up information from these terrorists that would be consistent with the law. the torture statute is a c