i spoke with mr. roche just before airtime. mr. roche, you say judge kavanaugh lied under oath when he testified before the judiciary committee last week. can you explain how you know that he lied? >> i can. i wasn't able to watch the testimony. i was in an airplane, but i read the testimony the next day and i was struck as i was reading it that, you know, i know debbie. and -- >> debbie ramirez. >> debbie ramirez. and i know from my experience with her that at least from my perspective, there is zero chance that she's making up this story, and i heard dr. blasey ford's testimony. i read some of it later. i believe she's telling the truth. when brett started saying things about his drinking and use of certain words, sexually-oriented words. i knew he was lying because he was my roommate. you know, we were in a room together. our beds were 10 feet apart for a couple of months. and what struck me as interesting in speaking out about it is not only did i know he wasn't telling the truth is i know he knew he wasn't telling the truth. >>

mr. roche's memories are important?> yeah, i do, because i don't think it's as much about the specifics as is it about the general memory about what he was like? certainly i think we're all capable of having general memories about what our roommates were like in college. so i thought it was interesting he talked about how one of the things he didn't like about kavanaugh and his friends was the way they treated women and in particular when you were talking about the use of the phrase, devil's triangle and boofing which were sexual terms. and he wasn't able to say for sure, i think, that kavanaugh used them, but what he could say for sure was what those words meant during that time. and that those words were sexual terms. they were not what kavanaugh said they were when he was speaking under oath. so, again, this is not about -- if this came up in a vacuum unrelated to a sexual assault allegation, it wouldn't matter. it wouldn't matter if he used these phrases or if he, you know, was getting really drunk. it only matters

mr. wonderful. >> advice from new york, i just bought nestle and roche. i like they're trading at a discount to the comparables domestically doesn't matter what china does, people will eat and they will take drugs. >> great having you here on the desk doc. >> eqe it's a pennsylvania-based oil and natural gas play i bought it during the show. >> josh brown. >> add it to google this week. it's the only one of the faangs that i have, and i am also watching netflix very carefully. >> and we're all going to be watching apple as we get into next week. later next week on thursday. see how that is. dow's down 165 that does it for us. have a great weekend, everybody. "power" starts now. >> scott, thank you very much and welcome, everybody, to "power lunch." we are off the lows, as you see there. the dow down 163 points, but it is still, frankly, a brutally red october for your money we haven't seen this kind of financial pain since the financial crisis a decade ago, 2008 and tech is still the big drag today. is it time to fear this fall or buy? and firing on all c

roche. in list private enterprise and providingin her prize up andining to move become owners and not just workers. approach i would take. mr. monroe? >> mr. nixon, you spent a number of years as the vice president of the united states and many lost an election, lost an election in california, and --ay the republican body what is the differs between the new nixon and nixon? the new-- mr. nixon: nixon is a little older. he does not have quite as much hair. but i think the best answer to is when anon individual whether it is in politics or education, when he ceases to grow, to change to meet changing conditions, then he no longerre will be living with the generation of which he is part. i am very proud of this. over the last eight years, i have had a chance to travel through the world, study the .roblems of the world i believe i have found some solutions. they are new solutions for the new world. they are not the only solutions of 30 years ago, most of which mr. humphrey is advocating. that i can bring these solutions to these problems, solutions to problems in our cities, solutions in the problem affairs, respect for law, re