mr. roemer hit the nail on the head, we get the democracy we deserve. but i think a lot of us take it for granted. it's always been there. yeah, we had problems before but we've always stuck it out. i think it's much more fragile than that and i think we really as a nation and as a people can't assume just because we've had 200-plus years of a democracy, that we're entitled in some way to 200 more and if we are careful with what happens and the way the system actually works, these kind of very basically issues about democracy, we're going to lose it, and we're going to think, what the heck happened here? so i really think that this is the time. i think senator johnston hit the nail on the head. there is a wave and now is the moment to catch that wave and if we don't, i think we do it -- we lose it at our own peril. sen. johnston: grover norquist has a pledge members to sign about taxes. >> the way it is set up is to relate to the context. side having the plaza. having theern side sherman memorial. have you get people from this part into that part? how d

mr. roemer hit the nail on the head, we get the democracy we deserve. but i think a lot of us take it for granted. it's always been there. yeah, we had problems before but we've always stuck it out. more fragilemuch than that and i think we really and as a people can't assume just because we've had 200-plus years of a that we're entitled in some way to 200 more and if with what happens and the way the system actually works, these kind of very basically issues about democracy, we're going to lose it, and we're going to think, the heck happened here? that this ishink the time. i think senator johnston hit the nail on the head. wave and now is the moment to catch that wave and if it -- we i think we do own peril.our sen. johnston: >> they all sign or the refused to, and it is a big political issue. we need to make campaign-finance a political issue like that. the way to do it, to put in a constitutional amendments, and ask a member, are you for by givingontributions a power to the congress legislate or not? it could be a powerful way to mobilize the public