mr. rohr shared one-third of the population is african-american. is that consistent with your numbers? i know when the census has done its counts, there is a civil rights battle to under count for low-income and african americans. how do you do your count? they use the census and other ways, but how do you adjust for maybe an under count of your numbers especially reaching non-english speaking populations like the undocumented population? >> [speaker not understood] will come up with the other questions you had. i do know one number off the top of my head. you mentioned the ethnicity issue. our survey indicated that african americans represented 24% of the homeless population in our survey. and in your profile of 6% in the general population is accurate. relative to making adjustments for under count, the hud guidelines that are put out for the count are very prescriptive and they actually change every single -- practically every single year. certainly every two years. so, there is no ability to do any additional estimations over what you observe o

(applause) >> all right, up next, mr. rohr who runs the human services agency, thank you for being here. >> still morning, good morning, supervisors, trent rohr director services agency. i was not going to do a powerpoint, but tried to sort out my words late last night. i thought a powerpoint would be more helpful because there's a lot of meat to the ten-year plan and there is a way to sort of focus it down that i think is more easily digest i believe and to talk about what the plan talked about the city doing over 10 years and what we were able to accomplish ~. and i think that leads into what i hope is a healthy discussion about what's next for us. ~ digestible so, actually what i found was a powerpoint that i did at the u.s. conference of mayors of 2006 i talked to my colleagues around the country to talk about the 10 year plan was. put this slide up through the clerk. you can kind of see it. to give you some context, in about 2002, there was a national movement in cities and counties and states across the country to develo

colleagues, any further questions for mr. rohr? thank you so much for your data. much appreciated. at this point i'd like to call -- we have people here from applied research who did the hsa count and were involved in that. are they still -- and peter [speaker not understood], samantha, a colleague of yours. thank you for coming today and thank you for doing what you do for us. we're just letting you be an opportunity to speak. i think when people see, they walk to talk about how it was collected and what have you, talk to the people who did the collection themselves and also i think my understanding is what you've done as well look at other jurisdictions also. just want to give you an opportunity to speak, maybe talk about what you've dub, if there are relevant insights in terms of what other places are doing that would be helpful as well. >> sure. well, first off, thank you for the opportunity to talk about the 2013 point time [speaker not understood]. there's a little background, applied survey research has been in business since 1980 and we've been doing point in time counts si

(applause) >> all right, up next, mr. rohr who runs the human services agency, thank you for being here.