mr. rolner said, here with the citation that they were cited for not following the safe work procedures and i will just put it up here on the overhead. they were cited back in march for not following it. and they were fined for it and so i don't know what he is talking about in terms of their employees being trained well. they are not. and in terms of traffic, they are required by the state industrial labor standard commission to have a flagger on the street, when they are doing work and they had no flagger. and either on the garces drive or brotherhood way and it is just basic requirement of operating as a tree removal company and they were doing tree removals they were not doing tree pruning as maybe somebody might have said. they are doing tree removal. the pictures that i presented can i, and am i misleading and i tried to make it sound like they might be misleading or that they showed, not ordinary pictures, the coning off of an area on a street does not necessarily mean that they have traffic control. you know? in terms of what mr. crane said, he believes that just having the cones ou