mr. rosenit is an honor to introduce our panelist of 3 billion scholars who have -- three brilliant scholars who have shared so much light on the connections between law and literature. alison lacroix is an associate member of the university of chicago's department of history. she is the author of the ideological origins of american federalism which we have discussed, and, in addition to her important leadings about law -- important writings about law, she has co-authored books on signature -- on literature. most recently cannons and codes, law and literature in america's. she is writing book about constitutional discourse between 1850 and 1861. the professor of law, professor of courtesy by english and intellectual life at stanford law school. she is also the 2020 guggenheim constitutional studies. the author of the enters of pardoning and the coeditor of two other books on literature, the oxford handbook of law, she has written many important articles. and, catherine zuckert, the visiting at

most of the correspondence also occurred when mr. rosen and his top deputies realized that one of their peers had plotted with mr. trump to first oust mr. rosen and then to try to use federal law enforcement to force georgia to overturn either election results. these people, they ran the justice department. we have now spent the last several weeks with the known overreaches that happened there. today we learned that trump joined in those efforts by mark meadows, his chief of staffer, in a direct and specific and sustained pressure campaign to overturn the results of the election. the new documents just add to this picture of the chief of staff, mark meadows, launches his pressure campaign. "new york times" reported about that last month, specifically that meadows had sent at least five e-mails in december and january, pressing rosen to probe conspiracy theories. the increasingly clear picture of a coordinated coup attempt from the oval office is where we start this hour with pennsylvania attorney general's shapiro. i know the journalist th

did mr. rosen memorialize what mr. >> we've been told that the justice department is being cooperative in terms of handing over records, but in terms of the emails, for example, between meadows and rosen and rosen and his deputy, rich donahue, they're very terse. there's not a lot of detail. rosen does not give anything away. he doesn't say these things are insane or i'll get on it. he's trying to be as neutral as possible. all of the investigators are trying right now to interview mr. rosen and get more information out of him and this is where the current justice department under merrick garland becomes very, very important. it is up to them to determine how much cooperation jeff rosen can give with the investigators because he's going to be talking about justice department equities. he's going to be talking about things that pertain possibly to the january 6th investigations and he's going to be talking about things possibly that pertain to executive privilege. so, it's going to be up to merrick garland and his teams

trump to first i was mr. rosenfederal law enforcements to force georgia to overturn its election results. it's a lot. thankfully we have two terrific friends of this broadcast to talk about all of it. jason johnson, campaign veteran journalist i'm professor of politics at morgan state university co-bears and matthew dowd founder of country over party in the past he was chief strategist for the bush cheney presidential effort in oh four. he is deservedly the most famous man and wimberley texas and matthew emptied i would like to start with you. we have been part of a national frog boiling campaign. you can hear it in the congressman's voice wanting to focus peoples attention. folks, don't you understand that what's been revealed might have made nixon jealous. it would've made nixon blush and yet the sound of crickets across the land is mostly what we get so matthew explained to the good folks watching how much danger democracy isn't. >> well thanks for having me and being the most famous person and one really is lik

he sent an e-mail to mr. rosen acting attorney general can you have your team look into these allegations of wrongdoing. wow. a lot of pressure there. wants him to look into something. every chief of staff i bet for every single one of us send the same kind of e-mails every day, you get people calming you, you send it to the agency, can you look into this. what else did he say. sent a youtube link i bet our staff has done that, wow, that's pressure. how about this. there's been allegations about signature match anomalies in fulton county george can you get jeff clark to engage on this immediately if there's any truth to this allegations. boy, that's a lot of pressure there. mark meadows putting a lot of pressure on people asking can you look into this allegations, someone's raised it. after all, lots of americans, 80, 90 million americans had concerns with the election but what are democrats doing? launching another investigation, call in five people for depositions but we can't have the head of the capitol hill po

he sent an email to mr. rosen, acting attorney general, can you have your team look into these allegations of wrongdoing? wow, lot of pressure there. wants him to look into something. every chief of staff, i bet, for every single one of us sends the same kind of emails and letters every day. you get constituents call you, can you look into this? let's see what else mr. meadows had to say. sent a youtube link. i bet our chiefs of staffs have sent youtube links to people in the department. wow, that's pressure. anomalies of signatures in fulton county, georgia. can you get him engaged on this immediately to see approximate there's any truth to this allegation? mark meadows putting a lot of pressure, can you look into this allegation? someone has raised it. after all, lots of americans, 80, 90 million americans had concerns with the election. what are democrats doing? they're going to launch another investigation, call in five people for depositions but we can't have the head of the capitol hill police here today lik

he sent an email to mr. rosen, the acting attorney general, can you have your team look into these allegations of wrongdoing? wow. a lot of pressure there. wants them to look into something. every chief of staff for every single one of us since -- sends the same kind of emails and letters every day. you get constituents and people call you and you send it to the agency can you look into this? see what else mr. meadows had to say. sent a youtube link, and i bet we've had some of our chiefs of staff sent youtube links to colleagues and -- and wow. that's pressuring -- and how about this one? there have been allegations about signature match anomalies in fulton county, georgia. can you get geoff clark to engage on this issue immediately if there's any truth to this allegation? ?boy, that's a lot of pressure. mark meadows putting pressure can you look into this allegation? someone's raised it. after all, lots of americans, 80, 90 million americans had concerned with the election but what are the democrats doing? they'

the emails indicate rosen talked mr. olson and asked him for more information. veal how on december 31st and january 3rd former president trump met with rosen and other top justice officials and pressured them to challenge the election results. on january 1st, meadows sent him a youtube clip pushing a theory italy used satellites to move votes to biden. rosen forwarded it to a deputy who replied and call the clip pure insanity. on the same day, meadows emailed about signature matches in georgia. and writing can you believe this? i'm not going respond. the pressure campaign ramped up as rosen was replaced by bill barr, who stepped down in december 2020. barr, one of the president's closest allies said publicly in december that he did not see evidence of wide spread voter fraud. in a hearing tuesday about the january 6th capitol attack, oversight committee chairwoman carolyn maloney noted how the president was pushing false claims about the election as he was elevating rosen to become his acting attorney general. >> president trump repeatedly pressured the departme

day's daily thank you mr. rosen. >> thank you mr. daily.ator klobuchar sera going to give her a moment to get into her seats. and then she will ask the next question. she's been kind enough to join us here in person even though some much of our hearings have been remote because of covid. we are happy to see her here, senator klobuchar. thank you very much chairwoman. the great work in nevada and across the country when it comes to tourism thank you so much senator scott's. i know it last week you had a hearing on international tourism. really, really important topics that are blunt and i need the brand usa reauthorization. i guess i would start with that in your testimony emphasize the importance of that when it comes to international travel and one recent report found international travel does not begin to reopen soon the u.s. is projected to lose water to 75 billion in spending by the end of 2021. can you talk about the importance of the role of brand usa? in the past and what we need to do going forward. >> thank you, senator klobuchar.

none of the e-mails show mr. rosen agreeing to open the investigation. in talks to speak about any pressure he or the doj felt from the administration. senator dick durbin said the e-mails show the depths of the attempt of the white house. meanwhile, facebook is continuing its ban of former president donald trump from their platforms until at least january 2023 after the company's overis sight board ruled that the social media giant was justified in blocking trump following the january 6 attack on the u.s. capitol. saying in a statement, quote, we believe president trump's actions constituted a clear violations of our rules which merit the highest response necessary. former president trump reacts, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with this. >> our job is not to take these decisions with an eye to which side of the political aisle is going to agree or disagree but to do so in a way that is fair and transparent. but believing we would act as reasonably as we can. >> we'll see how that will form president trump's ability to be relevant. still ahead, th

the national constitution center hosted this program and provided the video area mr. rosen is an honor to introduce our panelist of 3 billion scholars who have -- three brilliant scholars who have shared so much light on the connections between law and literature. alison lacroix is an associate member of the university of chicago's department of history. she is the author of the ideological origins of american federalism which we have discussed, and, in aio

. >> the new york times reports that mr. rosentiating for a single interview. do you want a status update? he was obviously someone who was a key part of these discussions. >> i'm sorry to say i don't have a status update on where we are with that. >> i assume he is someone you want to hear from? >> yes, anyone that has been involved and touched by this. >> before i let you go, at what point do these requests for interviews turn into legal action, subpoenas, and forcing the hand? >> i think if we meet continuous resistance we'll have to take it a step further. >> like in a month or two months? >> it depends. with these committees you don't ever know how long it will take, but we give people a chance to come forward, to be witnesses at the hearings and if there is a lot of resistance we are have to take it to another level. there is so many things that we have to deal with, also. >> congresswoman robin kelly, making news for us. the news that if the interview requests are not accommodated subpoenas may be on the way. thank you. >>>

clark responds to mr. rosen in his email, no i spoke with the source, i'm on with the guy who took the video right now. working on it. more due diligence to do. we have no idea what he's talking about, what video, what guy? there were videos of election workers and voting equipment contractors doing their jobs that were wildly misinterpreted by conspiracy theorists, people had death threats, there was a noose hung in the front lawn of one worker for dominion voting in georgia, was he speaking to somebody who took videos like that,ik who in some cases had relationships with q-anon? was a senior leader in the d.o.j. going to people with q-anon relationships to find evidence of fraud in the 2020 election? that's my biggest question right now. >> and we know from the emails, as you point out in your reporting, that some of the complaints from president trump and his allied forces were actually sent down the line to u.s. attorneys in both the eastern and western districts of michigan and to a u.s. attorney in the wes

. >> i cannot tell you -- >> mr. rosen. >> -- consistent with my obligations today about private conversations with the president one way or the other. >> now, at the time this seemed like a tell. obviously if the answer to that question is no, you just say no. well, now we have a new trove of documents unearthed by the house oversight committee that proved the president did of course repeatedly attempt to pressure the department of justice to overturn the election results. this is an email sent from trump's assistant to incoming acting attorney general rosen an hour before he announced bill barr would be stepping down, in case you're wondering what the point of all this was, with the subject line from potus. it contains talking points and a forensics report about entirely fictitious election fraud in michigan claiming, quote, this is the evidence that dominion voting machines can and are being manipulated and michigan cannot certify for biden. there are also emails from trump's chief of staff, mark meadows, who, by the wa

he sent an email to mr. rosen, the acting attorney general, can you have your team look into these allegations of wrongdoing? wow. lot of pressure there. wants him to look into something. every chief of staff, i get, for every single one of us sends the same kind of emails and letters every day. >> is that true? you used to be staff on this committee back when republicans ran it, kurt. >> no. that's not true. jim jordan, as always, is doing everything that he can to bend over backwards to defend this autocratic-type behavior from the trump administration from his former colleague, mark meadows, then white house chief of staff. and again, this is incredibly dangerous, joy. we have people who are at the highest levels of our government actively working to undermine a fair and free election. looking to use as their instrument of power, the justice department, a justice department that, in theory, is supposed to be free and independent of political pressure. and it just tells us that, like the congressman said, januar

i do know that those individuals i mentioned, including mr. rosen, were not profiles in courage. i do know they didn't stand up and use the power they had, with an outgoing president who they knew was leaving power, when they had an obligation of fidelity to publicly say, the election is over. there will be no more filings before the supreme court because there's no legal basis for that. and your job at d.o.j. is to say that. not just say what the president wants. internally to joan's point, they may have been backing themselves up which is lawyerly, not courageous. i say that as a lawyer. i've never been known for my courage, cornell. but very lawyerly. and yet telling. this was one quote for you, cornell. rosen forwarding what joan alluded to, trump's chief of staff saying maybe italian satellites were manipulating votes and the deputy a.g., he has a good job, acting number two. quoting, pure insanity, cornell. >> i don't know how to start with that. to your point, we're not exactly sure. however, look, all right, some point, you see enough smoke, you know there has to be some

house, that according to the times, an email to another justice department official indicated that mr. rosened to broker a meeting between the fbi and a man who had posted videos online promoting the italy conspiracy, known as italygate the italygate is like the stargate, except, instead of interstellar travel, it just dumps you behind some vespas on a cobble stone street, and you have to fight through a cloud of pigeons to make your way back. or even worse, the italygate leads you to rudy's apartment. "oh, no, not more aliens the last one took my neck for experiments and forgot to put it back on. italygate sounds like the last booth on the toll plaza to new jersey it's cash, e-zpass and the italygate, where you just loudly negotiate, "i'm only making a quick errand here. give me a break. stop your [ bleep ] honking! then get a [ bleep ] e-zpass!" [ laughter ] so democrats must take stock of the fact that this is the republican party they're dealing with a republican party whose most powerful figures are disseminating insane conspiracy theories about the election, calling for coups, trying t

and that mr. rosen would be taking over as acting attorney general at the department of justice. of course, william barr who said publicly that there was no widespread election fraud. anthony. >> jeff pegues, thank you, jeff. >>> the uk is extending its strict covid restrictions for at least four weeks amid a surge in cases and a rapid spread of the more infectious delta variant. britain saw more than 7,000 new coronavirus cases just yesterday. the prime minister says cases are increasing by about 64% a week. meanwhile here in the united states, the state with the largest economy will reopen this morning. california was one of the first states to shut down more than a year ago. and is one of the last states to lift those restrictions. carter evans is at dodgers stadium in los angeles. carter, how is life going to change today? >> reporter: oh, a lot is going to change. good morning. throughout the past year, the home of the dodgers served as both a covid testing site and a vaccination center. well, tonight, the stadium opens to full capacity. that's 56,000 fans. for the first tim

mr. rosen's testimony before our committee last month, doj was either unaware of our resistance in its lead agency role. according to the joint senate report, army chief of staff noted, quoted, doj did not conduct any interagency rehearsals or have an integrated security plan as doj did during the summer of 2020 protest, but it had not been designated as the lead federal agency. according to the senate report, the general stressed the importance of integrated security plans and acknowledged that had there been one of january 6th, dod's response time would have been quicker. general flynn, had doj played a more proactive role in coordinating the federal security preparations prior to january the 6th, do you think the federal response would have been quicker? >> congressman, i can't answer for the department of justice. however, what i would say is that that integrated security plan pre-federalized soldiers and airmen, a rehearsal and an integrated plan would have assisted us when the crisis rapidly escalated and the crisis went in a direction that was unforecasted. >> thank you very much. we

total in the second year total $119,four hundred fifty-one all of which are one-time savings as mr. rosen thiel noted we have full agreement with the department. we're available for any questions. >> chairman: great. i do not see any questions. we will let the controller know that we're in agreement with the controller's budget and the recommendations and we thank you for working together on that. next and finally, we have one department where there is still actually disagreement. all of the others came to agreement on and that's the office of economic and workforce development. welcome. >> good morning. thank you, chair haney, president walton, supervisors ronen, mar, and safai. the director of the department of workforce development. actually, we are in agreement with the budget and legislative analyst recommended reductions. there's one policy recommendation where we're not in agreement surrounding, again, the need for our two new small business permitting specialists. we have provided further information to the b.l.a. to substantiate why we're critical from the customer service genera

total in the second year total $119,four hundred fifty-one all of which are one-time savings as mr. roseniel noted we have full agreement with the department. we're available for any questions. >> chairman: great. i do not see any questions. we will let the controller know that we're in agreement with the controller's budget and the recommendations and we thank you for working together on that. next and finally, we have one department where there is still actually disagreement. all of the others came to agreement on and that's the office of economic and workforce development. welcome. >> good morning. thank you, chair haney, president walton, supervisors ronen, mar, and safai. the director of the department of workforce development. actually, we are in agreement with the budget and legislative analyst recommended reductions. there's one policy recommendation where we're not in agreement surrounding, again, the need for our two new small business permitting specialists. we have provided further information to the b.l.a. to substantiate why we're critical from the customer service generalis

engaging in a conspiracy theory about italian technology and could he please investigate it and mr. rosen happened. i saw this. i -- here's what i did, and here's what i didn't do. memorializing exactly that because we were all going to read that email. >> and the italian space laser conspiracy theory. >> marjorie taylor-greene yesterday went to the holocaust museum and apologized for past remarks and i think that's a good thing. so, like other members, if they get the opportunity to go to the holocaust museum to do that, i know a lot of people said it doesn't matter, but it does matter that people go to the holocaust museum. it doesn't matter when people make mistakes, jane, and let's just take it one mistake at a time and this is a mistake that she apologized for and i put that in the good column. >> don't agree. >> there's so much -- [ laughter ] >> but it is a good thing to apologize for making, you know, offensive nazi holocaust comparisons that were just gross -- grotesque. >> the disinformation that exists to have to do something -- i mean, i'm sorry. what? you went there and learn

mr. meadows asked jeffrey rosen the acting attorney general to examine debunked claims of election fraud mexico, an array of conspiracies that helped mr. trump be the actual victor. that included a theory that people in italy used military technology to remotely taefrper with voting machines in the united states to switch votes for mr. trump to joe biden. the fact the former congressman would embrace these fanatical conspiracy theories, but this is why you have to call this out. they have proven if given power they will try to use the levers of power to push their conspiracies. >> right, and, again, this is the -- look, i think that the department of justice really should look into it. especially if these claims are coming from legitimate sources. it's important for these things not -- these things not to happen again, to make sure that the white house isn't using its power to try and keep a president in office. that is not what the administration should be doing. so these are, again, things that i believe are going to set the republican party back. these are not the issues that republica

mr. clark responds to rosen in his email, no, i did not talk to him. i spoke to the source, and on with the guy who took the video right now, working on it, more diligence to do. we are no duties talking about here. one video, white guy? those videos are shot, as we know, election workers, and voting equipment contractors, doing their jobs that were wildly misinterpreted by conspiracy theorists. people had death threats. there was a news hung -- a news hung in the front lawn in georgia. was he speaking to somebody who took videos like that? when some cases had, you know, relationships with qanon? was he a senior leader in the doj who is going to have qanon relationships to find evidence of fraud in the 2020 election? that is my biggest question that i don't know the answers to right now. >> and, amy, we also know from these emails, as you guys point out and your reporting tonight that some of these complaints from president trump and his allied forces were actually sent down the line to u.s. attorneys in both eastern and western districts of michigan a

mr. daley and chair rosen. >> we are going to give a moment to get into her seat and then she will ask the next question. she's been kind enough to join us here in person even though so much of the hearings have been remote so we are happy to see her here. senator klobuchar. thank you very much for your great work in nevada and across the country when it comes to tourism as well as thank you, senator scott. i know that last week you had aa hearing on international tourism and really important topic. we lead the brand usa reauthorization and i guess i would start with that in your testimony you emphasize the importance of that when it comes to international travel and one recent report found of international travel doesn't begin to reopen soon the u.s. is expected to lose 175 billion by the end of 2021. can you talk about the importance of the role in the past and what we need to do going forward? >> there's the county, state level and for a long time with the marketing office at this point they are working with your state office and national office at the brand usa to spread the good news

mr. meadows asked jeffrey rosen to examine debunked claims of election fraud that included a fantastical switch votes from mr. trump to votes for joseph r. biden jr. it's so ridiculous even when i'm reading it. i do have to read this. the times report that rosen never agreed to open investigations and people close to rosen say he in fact did not. what do you make of this effort by meadows? >> as someone who spent 19 years at the department of justice, i think it's disgusting to see an attempt to abuse it in this way. first and foremost, what i see here is a violation of the policy about communication between the white house and the justice department for this very reason. there is a very strict rule about the channel of communication between the white house and the department of justice to avoid either the reality or appearance of partisan politics motivating an investigation. so that's the first problem. but only overshadowed by the second problem, which is the substance of it. to ask for there to be an investigation into something that someone knows is baseless is an abuse of the machi

mr. chairman. >> senator rosen, we want to thank you for appearing at our healing today. i will close out with some brief comments today. first of all, i want to think ranking member scott. as you mentioned, our staff who made this year impossible. i also want to think of course our witnesses for their testimony and their insights. ranking member scott made an excellent point earlier when he talked about how capable and dedicated and experienced this witness panel was. we are certainly grateful for that when we are discussing these important issues that relate to alzheimer's and dementia generally. as we lift the shroud of this pandemic, we also have to think about how we can bolster support for those afflicted with alzheimer's disease and of course, that support also is support for their families. we cannot leave them behind as we head towards recovery. i believe the american rescue plan has made great strides towards ensuring that people with disabilities and older adults can access services that help them live full and meaningful lives. congress should also pass the am

mr. chairman. >> thank you senator rosen. senator halll hawley you are recognized for your questions? i think you mentioned this in your written testimony but i would like to start here. whatpi percentage approximatelyf all fuel on the east coast of the united states is twrans ported by your company's pipeline? >> thank you for that question, senator. it is approximately ra45%. >>>> how many gallon was fuel ds your company's pipeline transport on a daily basis? >> normally we would move approximately 100 million gallon was fuel a day, senator. that's lot. >> is it fairav the say that te of millions of americans don't have any choice but to rely on your pipeline for fuel? i mean you have enormous market power is what i am driving at is that a fair statement? >> senatorau over time we have evolved as a big player in the fuel business. because of our reliability record and frankly we are the cheapest cost of transportation for the fuel to those customers. >> yeah. i think your pipeline, i think the amount of fuel running through the pipeline exceeds the fuel consumption of germany. if i

rosen has declined to comment on the story. nbc news has not been able to reach a spokesman for mr. trump. you look at that email, it's very clear rosen expected that we would all someday read it and he wanted, for the record, to show it didn't happen. >>> still ahead here, democrats are forging ahead with an infrastructure plan with or without republican support. and coming up on "morning joe," nbc news senior international correspondent keir simmons will join the discussion after his exclusive discussion with russian president vladimir putin. and congressman elissa slotkin will also be their guest. why you awake? email or tweet me. awake? email or tweet me. when it comes to laundry, everyone thinks their way is the right way. i wash on delicate. i just stuff everything in. you have to wash on cold, because it saves energy. the secret is, tide pods work no matter how you wash. so, everyone is right. it's got to be tide. i've lost count of how many asthma attacks i've had. but my nunormal with nucala? fewer asthma attacks. nucala is a once-monthly add-on injection for severe eosinophilic a

mr. chairman. >> thank you so much. senator rosen, you're recognized for 5 minutes. >> thank you, chairman. really appreciate you holding this important hearing. witnesses, really appreciate you being here. i just want to say a little something building on what senator peters said. everyone's talking about network resilience. i just want to add my few cents about wildfires and network resilience to address wildfires. wildfires are becoming an ever present threat to the southwest and 95% of the west coast is under extreme drought all across california, oregon, nevada, new mexico, arizona. lake mead in nevada hit its lowest water level since the inception, i believe, of the dam. 46% of my state living in elevated risk of wildfires. it's imperative that communities in my state all across the west, but really all across the country have access to reliable and resilient communications network. i'm not going to go on about that because other witnesses have. i just wanted to put that out there. resilience is really important. i'd like to talk a little bit about what we're calling the middle mile.

rosen says, did you talk to b.j. pak? we know from our reporting that he wanted mr. pak to explain to mr. clark that there wasn't widespread fraud in georgia and that he should back off. instead, he says, no, i spoke with the guy who took the video right now. working on it. we have no idea what he's talking about, what video, what guy? there were videos of election workers and contractors doing their jobs that were wildly misinterpreted by conspiracy theorists, was he talking to someone who had relationships with qanon, was a senior leader in the doj going to people with qanon relationships to look for fraud in the 2020 election? that's my biggest question right now. >> and we know from the emails, as you point out in your reporting, that some of the complaints from president trump and his allied forces were actually sent down the line to u.s. attorneys in both the eastern and western districts of michigan and to a u.s. attorney in the western district of pennsylvania. there's very little indication of what, if anything, came of those communications. i think those, from my read about the

italy-gate but i prefer to call it the italian job and rosen received a follow up from another department official asking to set up a meeting between mr. italy-gate and the fbi and asked to reconsider after he refused to do so. this is the type of nonsense that the highest ranking members were intent on focusing on just five months ago. italy-gate. but that is not all. meadows also urging rosen to investigate baseless claims of voter fraud in new mexico. those false allegations were promoted by rudy giuliani who is now promoting foam pillows and posting hour long ufo videos to the university. meadows wanted the dodge to investigate a conspiracy theory which falsely claims that anomalies with signature matcher in fulton county has been widespread enough to make trump the loser. two days after that demand was pead, the trump campaign lawyer and meadows participated in trump's infamous phone call in which he say they commit fraud and find the vote so trump could win and meadows suggested that the trump campaign find a way forward that did not involve the courts. the times reported that rosen did not agree to open any of these investigati

mark meadows, chief of staff, asked jeffrey rosen, then acting attorney general, to debunk claims of fraud in mexico and a range of conspiracies that held that mr. trump had been the actual victor. it included a fantastic theory that people in italy had used military technology and satellites to remotely tamper with voting machines in the united states and switch votes for mr. trump to votes for joseph r. biden jr. we have no word of any such investigations. joining us now, peter baker, and university of alabama law professor, joyce vance. she is also an msnbc contributor. peter, your colleague said this, that the newly unearthed messages show how mr. meadows' private efforts veered into the recommend many of the outlandish. how significant is that reporting? >> from the beginning, they saw no line it wasn't willing to cross when you tried to influence the justice department. remember, this is a president who repeatedly tried to badger his attorney general, first jeff sessions and then bill barr, into prosecuting his rivals. he tried to badger them into clearing his friends publicly as well as privately, tried to, you know, basically use the ju

emails meadows asked jeffrey rosen, then the acting attorney general, to examine debunked claims of election fraud in new mexico, an array of conspiracy theories that held that mr. trump had been the victor. that included a fantastical theory that people in italy had used satellites to remotely tamper with voting machines in the united states and switch votes for mr. trump to votes for joe biden. think about that for a second. that's the chief of staff of the united states, right? the president talking to the attorney general, pressuring law enforcement to investigate ludicrous ginned up conspiracy theories, but that's nothing new. in fact, it's why donald trump was impeached for the first time, to try to extort ukraine's leaders to open a fraudulent investigation into joe biden. now, rudy giuliani and a senior adviser to the ukrainian president. it took place in july of 2019, the same month trump told the ukrainian president i would like you to do us a favor though. >> what we need from the president is to put an honest prosecutor in charge. he's going to investigate and dig up the evidence that presently exists, and if there's any other evidence about involve

rosen says had local agencies been alerted. they could have investigated and intervened. they very well may have talked to friends or neighbors or coworkers. talk to mridy ascertained whether he had any weapons tried to get a sense of what his mental state was, experts say while hindsight is 2020 the decision whether to pass on that information might not have been clear cut at the time. nobody wants to be the one who said you know what? i should have passed just long. jerry robinette ran homeland security investigations for immigration and customs enforcement in texas. he says it's routine for federal agencies to share information with locals. everything from obvious threats to hunches. they roadblocks that people envision are are not there. i mean, we work together too often on a regular basis. rosen wants to make sure that's the case. he says he was there in the hours after the vita shooting when the victim's families were notified. i heard the cries. and the screams, and i saw people throwing up and those are images that i will never forget. and he says, while cassidy alone is to blame for this tragedy, it's time officials asked themselves some ha

rosen says had local agency been alerted. they could have investigated and intervened. they very well may have talked to friends or neighbors or coworkers. talk to mrsidy ascertained whether he had any weapons tried to get a sense of what his mental state was, experts say while hindsight is 2020 the decision whether to pass on that information might not have been clear cut at the time. nobody wants to be the one who said you know what? i should have passed us along. jerry robinette ran homeland security investigations for immigration and customs enforcement in texas, he says it's routine for federal agencies to share information with locals, everything from obvious threats to hunches. the roadblocks that people envision are are not there. i mean, we work together too often on a regular basis. rosen wants to make sure that's the case. he says he was there in the hours after the vita shooting when the victim's families were notified. i heard the cries and the screams and i saw people throwing up. and those are images that i will never forget. and he says, while cassidy alone is to blame for this tragedy, it's time officials asked themselves some hard

mr. reed: reserving the right to object. i object for the rosen i previously stated. i want to thank her for the courtesy of presenting the unanimous consent immediately. i appreciate that very much. i'm the first chairman to endorse the type of changes the senator from new york has proposed as they are under the ucmj. the base mark of the defense bill next month subject to amendment. i anticipate numerous amendments being offered by members on both sides of the aisle. further, as i've already committed, the committee will consider these proposals to include a vote on them in committee if that is what any senator desires. that is in fact the tradition of the committee if a senator wants a vote, we will vote. according to committee records, there has not been a vote on this proposal in the committee since 2013, eight years ago and it has not been introduced in committee as an amendment. i look forward to the debate when we markup the 2022 defense bill. with that, i would reiterate my objection and again thank the senator for her willingness to introduce the unanimous c

rosen says had local agencies been alerted. they could have investigated and intervened. they very well may have talked to friends or neighbors or coworkers. talk to mrhad any weapons tried to get a sense of what his mental state was, experts say while hindsight is 2020 the decision whether to pass on that information might not have been clear cut at the time. nobody wants to be the one who said you know what? i should have passed us along. jerry robinette ran homeland security investigations for immigration and customs enforcement in texas. he says it's routine for federal agencies to share information with locals. everything from obvious threats to hunches, the roadblocks that people envision are are not there. i mean, we work together too often on a regular basis. rosen wants to make sure that's the case. he says he was there in the hours after the vita shooting when the victim's families were notified. i heard the cries. and the screams, and i saw people throwing up and those are images that i will never forget. and he says, while cassidy alone is to blame for this tragedy, it's time officials asked themselves some hard questions. what could we h

rosen, a senator from the state of nevada, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: patrick j. leahy, president pro tempore. the presiding officer: under the previous order, the leadership time is reserved. mrhumer: madam president. the presiding officer: the meeting leader. mr. schumer: ever since democrats passed the affordable care act, expanding health coverage and access to tens of millions of americans, we have had to fight tooth and nail to preserve the law from partisan republican attacks. for more than a decade, the assault on health care law -- for more than a decade, the assault on our health care law was relentless from republicans in congress, from the executive branch itself, and from republican attorneys general in the courts. in a landmark vote, we in the senate prevented the republicans from repealing the a.c.a. in 2017. each time, in each arena, the affordable care act has prevailed. and once again today, the united states supreme court in a 7-2 ruling upheld the affordable care act in the face of another legal challenge. so let me say definitively -- the affordable care act has won. the supreme court has just ruled the a.c.a. is here to stay. and now we're going to try to

rosen after barr flees. talk about this reporting and the significance of taking all the judiciary committee documents that show just how under pressure doj leaders were by requests from mrll, that is just it. this reporting, and i encourage everyone to read my colleague's full story in the "washington post," because it feels like that it is ripped from a plot point of homeland. it has everything. it is gripping if the conspiracy is true, which of course it isn't. but this is one of these conspiracy theories that you imagine typically comes in an email that your uncle saw and brings up at thanksgiving and you say that is nice, can you please pass the stuffing. but in this case, the president and his chief of staff are sending it along to the justice department with an earnest request from the top of the power of the u.s. government to take this seriously and to look into it. and that is sort of even more striking than everything in this story, which again is an incredible yarn, the idea that you had a president and people surrounding him who were so desperate to believe that he had won the election and that it was somehow stolen, and elevating the conspiracy theories in

hereby appoint the honorable jacky rosen, a senator from the state of nevada, to perform the duties of the chair. signed: patrick j. leahy, president pro tempore. mr. schumer: madam president? the presiding officer: the majority leader. mr. schumer: late last night, madam president, a giant of the legal world, judge robert katzmann passed away at the age of 68. he was the former chief justice of the second court of appeals in new york, one of the nation's foremost jurists and a kind, humble, compassionate human being who was deeply admired by everyone who knew him. the son of immigrants. his father was a refugee from nazi germany. robert katzmann was an amazing intellect attending the nation's top schools. he worked for daniel patrick moynihan, wetting his chops working on the confirmation of ruth bader ginsburg to the supreme court. the rest of his life he was maybe the most important writer on the topic of legislative judicial relations. later in his life, even when he had obtained one of the highest judgeships in the country, judge katzmann never lost his passion for helping those who were just starting their careers. he taught at n.y.u. at scw