mr. rosenberg?bill, first of all what's important to realize is that the "new york times" has been very critical of the obama administration for its enforcement agenda. >> they think they are too tough. >> they are too tough. so, first of all, i don't think that the sitting democratic president is not actually done the things the "new york times" has said the democrats should be doing. if you just take the border, right, just take this one piece of it, i mean, we don't believe in open borders. this administration hasn't created open borders. in fact we have deported more people out of the united states than any president in american history. >> that's because more people came across than any more time in american history. >> bill, that's not true. >> do not count on the sheet. >> bill you and i talked about this before on your show. that's not true what you just said. >> yes, it is. >> far more people came in during the clinton and bush years millions and millions and millions of people came in and