mr. rubio have it, accusing him of failing to slash his staff. you have fired nobody, mr. musk told. mr. rubio then scornfully added that perhaps the only person he had fired was a staff member from mr. musk's department of government efficiency. mr. rubio had been privately furious with mr. musk for weeks, ever since his team effectively shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under mr. rubio's control. the united states agency for international development, usaid. but in the extraordinary cabinet meeting in front of president trump and around 20 others, details of which have been reported, not been reported before mr. rubio got his grievances off his chest, end quote, will secretary rubio do what he's done before and stand up for usaid? is this the moment a republican who spent more than a decade in the senate, served on the foreign affairs committee and as vice chair of the intelligence committee, stands up on a subject he surely knows more about than elon musk. let's see. quote. mr.

he told mr. rubio he was good on tv, with the clear subtext being that he was not good for much else. according to the times mr. musk finally, mr. trump, i should say, finally intervened to defend. mr. rubio is doing a great job. the times says the cabinet meeting was a sign that the president is mindful of growing complaints about what doge is doing. it also covers an argument between musk and rubio. today, the president was asked about the scene in the times reporting. here's how he responded. >> mr. president, since you last spoke about it yesterday, some details have come out about your cabinet meeting with elon musk and some clashes potentially between secretary rubio and secretary duffy clash. >> i was there, you're just a troublemaker and you're not supposed to be asking that question because we're talking about the world cup, but elon gets along great with marco and they're both doing a fantastic job. there is no clash. >> mr. president, who has more authority, elon musk or your cabinet secreta

this is new york times, i guess, is maybe the folks who came out with this, mr. rubio. musk for weeks, ever since the team shuttered an entire agency that was supposedly under mr. rubio's control, the united states agency for international development. in the strai ex stramr. rubio gf his chest. that is a narrative. lara: they're doing everything they can to show discord and pit people against each other. i don't think a lot of these people, especially the left and the legacy media thrives off the exchanges that are antagonistic and palace intrigue and all this and they want us to believe this no matter what. i can tell you being around president trump, being around elon musk, secretary rubio, this stuff is totally made up. everybody is on the same page and wants to get the right things to happen over the next four years and even saturday night live couldn't help themselves, poking fun at elon musk and marco rubio's reported spat. >> i can't believe this is the guy you've given access to the entire government, he's not an elected official. >> i know you are but what am

husk was not being truthful mr. rubio said. ials who took early retirement and buyouts? didn't they count as layoffs after the argument dragged on for uncomfortable time mr. trump intervened to mr. union row doing a great job. trump said there was no clash at all between musk and rubio. how do you see. >> i like a sparky meeting. it makes for a very good meeting. i bet you that everyone walked away with a very clear understanding of what the president likes, which is conflict between strong people. secretary rubio is very smart. elon musk is very smart. i wish that was on tape. we would run that 24/7 role. >> aishah: matt, i will give you the final word. sometimes i read these articles. sometimes if they have got five sources somebody is trying to get elon musk to go away within the white house. >> no question. i mean, cabinet secretary does not like babysitters. and the doge guys are their babysitters and pushing them to do things they don't want to do. i think, importantly. the reason that musk is becoming more unpopular and i

he told mr. rubio he was good on tv, with the clear subtext being that he wasn't good for much else. throughout all this, the president sat back in his chair, arms folded as if he were watching a tennis match. it all puts this moment from last week's cabinet meeting in a new light. >> listen, let the cabinet speak just for a second. >> yeah. >> exactly. >> we're either you're unhappy with. >> it. you know. >> if you are, we'll throw them out of. >> here does anybody. >> unhappy? >> all right. so we unfortunately are going to have to get to all that in a second because we do have to get to santa fe, new mexico. there are officials that are updating us on what happened with gene hackman and his wife who passed away. let's listen. >> to that. >> on february 9th. >> 2025. >> she picked. >> up zinna from trudeau veterinary hospital. there was. a procedure that was done with the with the dog, which may explain why the dog was in a crate at the residence. let's move on to february 11th, 2025. mrs. arakawa had

part from that piece where musk reportedly went after secretary of state marco rubio quote, he told mr. rubio he was, quote, good on tv with the clear subtext, that being that he was not good for much else. meanwhile, quote, the president set back in his chair, arms folded as if he were watching a tennis match. tyler. eventually the president did reportedly intervene and set some limits on musk. he talked about using a scalpel instead of a hatchet when it came to these cuts, and also has tried to make it clear that it's the secretaries who will be running their agencies, with musk kind of advising. but do you think that is actually what's going on? is this any sort of turning point for musk's influence? >> i mean, it's a great question. and i think, as we have learned with the trump administration, you never fully. know exactly. >> what one week brings and what happens the next. i mean, just a few weeks ago, we saw president trump. >> post on social. >> media that he wanted elon musk to be more aggressive in his efforts. and what followed suit from that was that email sent to all federal empl

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mr. rigas: secretary rubio's waiver covers life-saving medicine, food, shelter. sen. merkley: very interesting, so then why hasn't this contract been restored? mr. landau: i can just look at the waiver. sen. merkley: here's the thing. the solicitor general sarah harris said the funding freezes not continuing, it is over, but the fact is the gears are not turning and the gears have to turn in order for contracts to be restored and for a to flow -- aid to flow. we are talking about diseases overseas. we don't want people getting on planes with those diseases and bringing those -- ebola-type diseases to the united states, etc. it is just double talk to say the funding freeze is over when the gears are not turning because the administration is finding other ways to keep them from turning, including fired all the people who turn the gears. i don't want to hear about waivers when there's no sincerity in actually applying them and making the aid function again. my time is up. thanks. chair risch: senator scott. sen. scott: -- >> senator lee, go ahead. sen. lee: thank you for

mr. trump said that secretary of state marco rubio is spearheading that effort, adding, quote, we now know who to blame if anything goes wrong. the president has also got his sights on green land. and he started off by promising self-determination for the people living there but ended on a more ominous note. >> we need greenland for national security and even international security, and we're working with everybody involved to try and get it. but we need it, really, for international world security. and i think we're going to get it, one way or the other, we're going to get it. >> greenland is a part of denmark but has had self rule since 2009. greenland's prime minister has said greenland is not for sale and will never be for sale. >>> wall street watching president trump's speech closely in his defense of those sweeping new tariffs. >> tariffs are about making america rich again and making america great again, and it's happening, and it will happen rather quickly. there will be a little disturbance. but we're okay with that. it won't be much. >> while the new commerce secretary hinted th

mr. trump said that secretary of state marco rubio is spearheading that effort, adding, quote, now we know who to blame if anything goes wrong. the president has also got his sights on greenland. he started off by promising self-determination to the people living there but ended on a more ominous note. >> we need greenland for national security and even international security. and we're working with everybody involved to try and get it. but we need it really for international world security. and i think we're going to get it, one y or the other, we're going to get it. >> greenland is a part of denmark but has had self rule since 2009. the greenlandic prime minister has said greenland is not for sale and will never be for sale. voters say the economy is their number one issue, and slotkin accused mr. trump of looting the economy on behalf of the wealthy. >> it's important to read the fine print. so, do his plans actually help americans get ahead? not even close. president trump is trying to deliver an unprecedented give away to his billionaire friends. he's on the hunt to find trillions of

mr. speaker, the president's cabinet. [applause] peter: and now the cabinet is coming in. secretary of state rubioecretary of treasury scott bessent. we saw there as well attorney general pam bondi, pete hegseth, who's there. mr. lett nick, the commerce secretary, who we talked about a little bit earlier. rfk junior, of course. there scott turner. there is seth duffy -- i'm so sorry, sean duffy. transportation. there senator adam schiff sitting with senator from -- yup, the new senator from delaware, lisa rochester. we had carol from illinois. we have angela alsobrooks, maryland. jasmine: kamala harris was the second. peter: kamala harris, of course. jasmine: interchangeably. peter: there is kristi noem, who is talking there with the congressman from new jersey. jason: that's tim burchett from tennessee. peter: there we go. is that brooke rawlins, the ag secretary. jason: it is sort of odd to have something like this when we so much pay attention to the fashion because of the protests and so forth having just on the oscars two nights ago. jasmine: not quite the same. jason: but there is a lot more

mr. zelenskyy left the white house early following that exchange. cbs news reported that secretary of state marco rubiosecurity advisor mike wallace asked the ukrainians to leave immediately after that meeting. the two leaders were expected to sign a deal that would give ukrainians -- the u.s. access to ukrainian mineral resources, but the white house has confirmed that deal was not signed. start from set on his truth social platform, president zelenskyy -- president trump said on his truth social platform, president zelenskyy is not ready for peace because our involvement gives a big advantage in negotiations. i don't want to vanish, i want peace. he disrespected the united states of america and its cherished oval office. he can come back when ready for peace. president zelenskyy expressed gratitude to the american people after his class with president trump, writing on x, thank you america, thank you for your support, thank you for this visit. thank you potus, congress, and the american people. ukraine needs just and lasting peace, and we are working exactly for that. with me to discuss this is our s

maybe marco rubio did backtrack, but, like, stand on business, mr. secretary. okay.ow to run the state department. michael steele did not recruit you to the republican party apparatus. so you could run for office and be the future of the party, so you can sit up here and take orders from a south african billionaire. what is really going on here? marco rubio, stand on business, sir. i will i will back you up on that. >> i back you up too, marco. you're my man. do your thing, bro. just, you know, don't let this fool punk you. you know, you stand your ground. you're the secretary of state. he is no one in this government. period. he is a made up title in a 180 day position period. and so the fact that, you know, he tries to call you out in the cabinet meeting, you were right to, to push back. and other cabinet members should do the same. y'all can't do this in silence. you have to make sure that you are the one running your department. donald trump even came out and said as much, but, you know, didn't put out this truth. so. you know, social tweet that, you know, we're

rubio. going on to read, simmering anger at the billionaires unchecked power spilled out in a remarkable cabinet room meeting. the president quickly moved to rain in mr. musk but the president, the one who moved into rain in mr. musk said it never happened. watch. >> mr. president, since you last spoke about it yesterday, some details have come out about your cabinet meeting with elon musk and some clashes potentially between secretary rubio. >> no clash, i was there. you are not supposed to be asking that question because we are talking about the world cup. elon gets along great with marco and they are doing a fantastic job. >> trace: but you know the media can't wait to bring up trouble. the sources tell me there was a clash. >> obviously i was not in the room and neither were the people who wrote that article or any of their anonymous sources so i don't think it's surprising to see this lack of journalism integrity coming up of "the new york times". i think they would have been smart to take a page from "the washington post" who jeff bezos recently said we are going to redirect our opinion pages to focus more on things that the american people car

rubio to resign. former national security adviser john bolton. bolton joins us. mr. ambassador, thank you so much. calling for the resignations of these individuals, including the secretary of state. what does that say in your regard, in your view, and how should our european allies consider and understand what happened yesterday? >> well, thanks for having me. look, marco rubio. >> and michael waltz, during their political careers. really established. >> outstanding reputations. >> in my view of standing. >> for a. >> strong american. >> posture in the world. >> strong national. >> defense. >> looking out for american national interests. and i. was delighted that they joined. the trump administration's second term. and i'm. >> just saddened. >> for them. that they're put in a. >> position where they're. >> where they're what i think. >> their basic. >> principles are, are. >> just being challenged on. >> on a. >> daily basis. i think we have to remember. >> that this this is. >> not the second month of. trump's tenure. >> as president. >> it's the. >> 50th month. >> so we've got a record to. >> l

mr. secretary, always great to have you on. now, i know you were in the room with vice president vance and secretary rubio after everything went down, who suggested that zelensky needed to hit the road. >> well. >> look, laura, it was a group decision. >> that president zelensky needed to be moved out. >> of the oval. >> and i got to tell. >> you, we were. >> in shock. >> this has to be one of the greatest diplomatic. >> the most mishaps. of all time by president zelensky. >> we were. >> having a press conference. we were going into lunch, and then we were going to sign the economic. partnership agreement. >> this was supposed to. >> be a day. where ukraine and the us intertwined our economic prospects. and instead, president zelensky and i think he's probably used to dealing with american leadership that is weak. and he ran into the president trump and who didn't back down, vice president vance, who didn't back down. they were asked to leave the room. then they had to be asked to leave the building. and they were texting everyone begging to come back out and sign the economic partnership. and i tell you, it's impossible to ha

mr. marengo who is the acting deputy administrator of usaid, and in fact, secretary rubio should also showthe house foreign affairs committee and show that he wants to work with congress if there is a good intention here to root out any fraud, to right size these programs. let him talk it out in public, why do it in private? host: roger joins us from minnesota, democrats line. you are on with our guest. guest: one suggestion for c-span first is when you bring these politicians no matter who they are, could you put up in the corner how long they fit in office, their wages and what their net income is? i really get tired of these politicians who work so hard for us and they are becoming multimillionaires. i've been in haiti where the usaid shows up and the poor people can't afford it. i was working in bolivia when their economy was crashing and people said if you have a good boss, you get paid at the end of the day so you can buy what you need. because tomorrow it's going to cost you more. people don't realize this country is totally bankrupt. wait until the economy crashes. what is your net

mr. president, since you last. >> spoke about it yesterday. >> some details have come out about your cabinet meeting with elon musk and some clashes potentially between secretary rubioas there. you're just a troublemaker. and you're not supposed to be asking that question, because we're talking about the world cup. but elon gets along great with marco and they're both doing a fantastic job. there is no clash. >> mr. president who bottom. >> line. >> were you with? who are you with? >> nbc. >> no wonder, mr. president. >> nbc has more authority. elon musk. >> or your cabinet secretaries. >> any other questions? >> what do you see there? >> well, it's part of a pattern. you've got a president who not only tells wants to dictate, who asks him a question, asks him questions, but what questions are appropriate to even ask? you know, that's a that's a president who really does not respect an independent press, which is provided for in the constitution of this country, who does not really respect free expression. look, i mean, the job of the press is to ask the president questions. in this instance, he is the most powerful person in the world. he has an enormous impact on

mr. president, since you last spoke about it yesterday. >> some details have come. >> out about your cabinet. >> meeting with. elon musk and some. clashes potentially. >> between secretary rubiory duffy. >> i was there. you're just a troublemaker. and you're not supposed to be asking that question, because we're talking about the world cup. but elon gets along great with marco and they're both doing a fantastic job. there is no clash. >> mr. president, who bottom. >> line were you with? who are you. >> with nbc? >> no wonder nbc. >> who has. >> more authority. >> elon musk or your. >> patented secretary. >> any other questions? >> what do you see there? >> well, it's part of a pattern. you've got a president who not only tells wants to dictate, who asks him a question, asks him questions, but what questions are appropriate to even ask? you know, that's a that's a president who really does not respect an independent press, which is provided for in the constitution of this country, who does not really respect free expression. look, i mean, the job of the press is to ask the president questions. in this instance, he is the most powerful person in the world. he has an enormous im

mr. president. >> since you last spoke about. >> it yesterday, some. >> details have come out about your cabinet meeting with elon. musk and some. >> clashes potentially between secretary rubio. >> and secretary duffy. >> i was there, you're just a troublemaker. and you're not supposed to be asking that question because we're talking about the world cup. but elon musk gets along great with marco and they're both doing a fantastic job. there is no clash. >> mr. president who. >> bottom line. >> who are you with? >> nbc. >> one day, mr. president who. has more. >> authority elon. >> musk or your cabinet secretaries. >> any other questions? >> congressman that was. >> our colleague. >> gabe gutierrez. >> i don't know about you, but i. >> think the lady doth protest too much. >> oh, boy. >> yes. >> i mean, i'm a troublemaker, too, so, you know, we hear you, gabe. but you know more than that. i mean, again, he's trying to make everyone happy. he's making nobody happy right now. and, you know, he wanted to give, you know, elon musk free rein to do whatever he wanted. and the agency heads were pushing back because again, it's bad for the american people. and the american people are

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secretary rubio sarcastically offered to rehire employees, quote, so musk could make a show of firing them again. the times reports secretary duffy also slammed musk's cuts at the faa. quote, mrm was trying to lay off air traffic controllers. what am i supposed to do? mr. duffy said i have multiple plane crashes to deal with now, and your people want me to fire air traffic controllers. musk said that was a lie. according to the report. come on now. trump has denied any clashes between musk and his cabinet, but said he told cabinet secretaries that staffing decisions will be left up to them, and he's calling for a more careful approach to mass layoffs. in a social media post, trump instructed secretaries to use, quote, the scalpel rather than the hatchet. can't use a scalpel on ground beef. joining me now, former congressman joe walsh from illinois and host of the podcast the social contract. and neera tanden, president and ceo of the center for american progress and former domestic policy advisor to president biden. thank you both very much for coming to the saturday show. okay, neera, of the three of us here at the table, you're the only one who's actually worked in the whit

mr. secretary, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you. >> george: let's bring in the british ambassador to the united states, lord peter mandelson. thank you for joining us this morning. you just heard secretary rubio there. your response? >> my response is that we need a very radical reset as you say in the caption behind you, and the reset has to consist of the united states and ukraine getting back on the same page, and president zelenskyy giving his unequivocal backing to the initiative that president trump is taking to end the war and to bring a just and lasting peace to ukraine, and the europeans, george, too. they need to back the cause for a ceasefire, and by the way, i think that ukraine should be the first to commit to a ceasefire and defy the russians to follow, and then as part of the unfolding plan for this negotiation, the europeans and perhaps some other countries too, have got to consider how they are going to put forces on the ground to play their part in providing enduring security and deterrence for ukraine. now that's the reset that we are looking for. that's what the british prime minister is working for in his meeting in london today. >> george: has there been any progress? i