mr. rudd there are three scenarios as a matter of logic. the united states accepts the fact that the emergence of north korea as a nuclear power, nuclear weapons state, and one of the other members of the nuclear club. washington will say that is unacceptable. i think that is the operating assumption in pyongyang and china. number two is there is a unilateral strike by the u.s. against north korean nuclear capabilities, and that certainly is a life option in washington. how live, none of us know. the chinese don't think that is faintly probable, because that would cut deep in america's core interest in preserving its relationship with south korea. ,he third is diplomacy works but it won't be the current style of diplomacy where there is not enough in it for the north koreans are chinese to make a move. joe: what do you mean by that? diplomacy could work, but it wouldn't be diplomacy as we think about it. what is a plausible path that would be dramatic here? mr. rudd: well, these things have be

, that is because mrs may cannot be any more specific, because if she were to say, you know, we want a deal a bit like canada, that would alarm people like the chancellor and amber ruddto say, perhaps we ought to look at something like switzerland or norway, that will alarm people like borisjohnson and the breck brexiteers. they would say thatis the breck brexiteers. they would say that is europe light. that is what has been called constructive ambiguity. she can't be specific on it. at the moment, they're trying to get through this process week—by—week and for now, that means getting the talks started again, getting the talks started again, getting agreement on transition and hopefully getting agreement on cash. that would be a result in itself. never mind the absolutely hugely daunting question of where is this all going to end up. because that exposes profound tensions within the cabinet and the conservative party. i understand it was a lively cabinet meeting, all saw it for the first timea meeting, all saw it for the first time a first reading. they had half an hourto time a first reading. they had half an hour to read it and put forward suggestions. we got an in