mr. rudich, who i believe he didn't say this this evening, to try to find a alternate design where we have agreed to split the equipment. so if i may show you, so the design is on top with the pole as it is, the design proposed below. it has an equipment box, it has an rru unit and the antenna. >> can you say that again into the microphone? >> it basically has the antennas on the top of the box, it has the rru equipment and a [inaudible]. so we have agreed to -- we've worked with them to try to take that long box, face it towards the street and take the battery box and place it across the street on the other poles to minimize the equipment that's on this one pole that would be near estest their home. we have proposed that. we have shared those photos with the appellant and so i'm happy to continue on my comments as to why the permits should be -- >> what happened to those discussions? >> we provided them to them, but didn't get an affirmative answer. >> okay. >> so if we -- we are happy to make those changes as a condition this evening, to that permit and/or, move forward with the design a