mr. rudolph.uest: whether it is called covert money or dark money, that is a really important issue, carter. money that is not transparent. in the case of the enablers act, we are talking about not even public transparency, but it is dark to the government and to law enforcement. dark money can refer to -- it can refer to campaign-finance and the types of nonprofits that are used to, get money into elections it can refer -- get money into elections. it can refer to how money is put into our political system. i've had a report on that topic. but we live in a society where we need to live up to our values of transparent money by regulating the enablers. host: to rich in pennsylvania, a republican. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. as far as the dark money, and what you have been talking about with respect to lobbyists, i want to touch on something a previous caller mentioned. i will ask it in a different way. that's influence peddling. i've read that in every other, not every, but

mr. rudolph.ether it is called covert money or dark money, that is a really important issue, carter. money that is not transparent. in the case of the enablers act, we are talking about not even public transparency, but it is dark to the government and to law enforcement. dark money can refer to -- it can refer to campaign-finance and the types of nonprofits that are used to, get money into elections it can refer -- get money into elections. it can refer to how money is put into our political system. i've had a report on that topic. but we live in a society where we need to live up to our values of transparent money by regulating the enablers. host: to rich in pennsylvania, a republican. good morning. caller: thank you for taking my call. as far as the dark money, and what you have been talking about with respect to lobbyists, i want to touch on something a previous caller mentioned. i will ask it in a different way. that's influence peddling. i've read that in every other, not every, but almost e