so i've got, and mr. rupy, i will wait for mr. heller to ask questions come back and ask your take on this because it worries me that we are going to say, you know, if we do this to try to catch the bad guys they're just going to do something else, could you imagine the amount of money we could have saved if we just would have given up if we try to interdict drugs was if we go after their plans, they would be both. if we do both they will go over the mexican border. let's not do that because then you'll just go over the mexican border. we just keep trying and i think this is one of the issues we have been kidnapped yet to try hard. >> to be clear, wireless carriers with respect to text messages are doing exactly you've described, and it's been a learning experience. some of the lessons learned, it's basically a spam filter protects messages. our instructional as to how smart the bad guys are. >> madam chairwoman, thank you. mr. stein, i want to talk a little bit about telemarketing guard. is that the unique system in canada? >> ye

we will begin with your testimony, mr. rupy. >> think you for giving me the opportunity to appear before you today. i served as senior director of law and policy at the united states telecom association. our member companies shared the subcommittee also concerns about the problems associated with illegal robocalls. we understand the consumer frustration they cause and we have long worked and coordinating with relevant private and government stakeholders to address this issue. in addition to be harmed because consumers, robocalls impact u.s. telecom's own members. ofrepresent the first line defense on this issue and they must be well versed in explaining to customers the difference between legal and illegal robocalls, providing them with information on how to file a complaint, and pointing them to tools to help to mitigate these calls. robocalls can also adversely impact our company's networks. last calling defense are typically highly localized, high-volume, extremely brief, lasting only a matter of minutes. carriers receive no