mr. ryan going to testify? christ i do not expect testimony. >> i do not want to take your time, but i had a dialogue with mr. ryan wendy 30-40 rule came up. he said there was no plan to do a repeal. >> we were told during previous hills that we had to have close rules because committees have not organized and they cannot possibly get together to have hearings. clearly that is not an excuse that could be used in this case. given that, mr. burgess, are you and the other chairs of education and workforce, and ways and means, asking for an open role? [indiscernible] >> i think usually we have a chairman, peer and say that we want a closed rule or they want to modify open rule. you are on both. if i call for an open rule would you support? correct i think everyone knows the answer to that question. historically, i have opted for -- >> all right. so, we have a bill before house that has had no hearings in this congress. we have 58 new members. we have no markups. this comes up for the rules committee and we will probably have a close rule, no amendments. so, even if people have good ideas for replacement or tweaking this bill, they will not hav