mr. sallet. >> guest: rivera has led three beers at the fcc and he was the architect in the 1970s of some of the original sort of computer one and computer to requirements aimed at introducing competition i think tom wheeler himself is one who has led industries and has been seeking to expand into the ploy and invest. he has a very keen appreciation for those things that limit investment. there is nothing that limit investment more than lack of certainty and predictability. so where there is a regulatory overhang that creates some certainty and unpredictability, that limits investment. so i am very optimistic that we are going to see a commission that is going to focus on objectives and goals, investment, deployment and not focus so much on the traditional regulatory means that has been the hallmark of the fcc. >> host: you're watching "the communicators" on c-span and our guest is walter mcclintock residency of u.s. telecom for broadband association. our guest reporters howard buskirk of "communications daily" where he serves as an executive senior editor. mr. mott korn, looking at the f