elizabeth's father ed smart joining us from salt lake city. good morning, mr. smart. >> good morning. >> were you surprised to hear that a girl who had access to phones and the outside world remained captive for 18 years? >> no, not at all. i don't agree with your fellow there on stoke home syndrome because i think that in many cases, these children do try to escape, and after numerous attempts they feel it's hopeless, and so they try to survive. and that's not necessarily bonding with these monsters. i know elizabeth did not bond with them. and i resent very much people talking about her moving over, the point being they're liz beth wrote in this diary and said that she did not like them, that she was not attached to them, and that she loved her family. so i resent very much that people say it's the stockholm syndrome. it is a matter of survival. when you've been abducted, you know what they're capable of doing. you know, when you're assaulted, when you're molested, there is, you know, no question that this person is capable of doing many things. that does not