mr. sammon, go down the line. what's the number one thing you'd like to see happen whether it's your wiggest -- biggest concern or what specifically you would like to see happen. >> again, with the committee and all committees in congress is to support and work with the administrator pistol as he goes forward with the risk-based security. he is focused in that direction. it's going to take -- there are going to be challenges as we referred to in terms of information. how do we go forward. but he definitely is going in this direction. i would say to give him the benefit of the doubt and work with him in terms of where he's trying to go. >> i would just like to say we stand ready to support the committee's efforts to oversee t.s.a.'s effort to move to more of a risk-based approach. i agree with mr. ron, we need to spend more time worrying about dangerous people versus dangerous objects. and there's various ways to do it. and we need to do it in away that makes sense. >> i'd like to note that most of our joint vulner

mr. sammon. what's the number one thing you want to see happen whether it's your biggest concern or what specific you'd like to see happen, and then we'll close of hearing. >> geep, with the -- again with the committee and all committees in congress is to support and work with the administrator pistol going forth with security. he's focused in that direction, and it's going to take -- there's going to be challenges as we referred to in terms of information. how do we go forward, but he definitely is going in this direction, and i would say to give him the benefit of the doubt and work with him in terms of where he's trying to go. >> i would joust like to say on behalf of gao, we stand ready to support the committee's effort to oversee tsa's effort to move towards a risk-based approach. i agree with mr. ron. we need to spend time worrying about dangerous people versus dangerous objects, and there's various ways to do it, and we need to do it in a way that makes sense. >> i'd like to note that most

mr. sammon.to what degree does the tsa coordinates with the faa for its is on spending on airport security? i know in corpus christi we recently got $5 million from the faa to improve security but have there have been any action with tsa in determining for the multiple dollars are best spent? >> i think since the gao reports you have seen come out of number of things we have been working for several years to address the specific issue you are talking about. first of all we worked with the airport community to come up with recommended design guidelines for airport planning and construction. a lot of the money the airports use for planning and construction comes from the faa. next, we worked with the homeland security institute to develop a best practices from all the airports. >> i am sorry. i've are real short amount of time. you are saying you are working regularly with other agencies to make sure the right hand knows what the left hand is doing? >> the government is working with the airports. t

mr. sammon here, and the g.a.o. g.a.o. in the report that's released out today, dated today on page 2 and 13 it says data shows from fiscal year 2004 to july 1, 2011, t.s.a. conducted joint vulnerability assessments at about 17% of t.s.a. regulated airports that existed at the time thus leaving about 83% of airports unassessed. how can that be? in september 2009 there was an issue saying 87% of the airports haven't been assessed and since that time frame we've only moved that number to 17% assessments? >> the joint vulnerability assessments are done in concert with the f.b.i. they are done in a limited number of locations but every single commercial airport receives an annual security assessment. >> but wait, why aren't there 100% j.v.a.'s done? is the goal not to get to 100%? >> t.s.a. does complete security assessments including the perimeter of all airports every year including we've done 27,000 inspections. >> i'm asking about the -- i recognize they are different assessments. >> what is your goal? >> we will not get t

mr. sammon said that he had it. them that i am not sure he looked at it in terms of this analysis. -- >> i am not sure he looked at it in terms of this analysis. >> tisra was the first of its kind of cross-all-modes -- a cross-all-modes scenario. insider attacks will be included in the second one. >> it is difficult to get any analysis over this. is there a month-by-month analysis you could share with us. >> it could be anything from a bad left behind to door left open. >> we're hoping the tsa can provide us some details. we want to understand whether the trend is going up or down? is that something you can provide to the committee? >> i will go back and check and will provide that to the committee. >> if it is -- >> it depends on the security. >> the perimeter fence at the jfk airport, based on investigative reports done by news organizations, i understand that the project to fix the fences running four years behind. what is your knowledge of the situation? >> i know that they're looking at it once did the hard det