mr. sammon? >> that's a move straight up to november.ould give hillary clinton 2 in 3 chance in being elected. 1 in 3 chances nothing. what trump needs to do is to win florida. he needs to keep his base really excited the whole way through. and he also needs them to turn out. he needs them to replace votes that he loses in the women sector, in the minority sector, and, yes, he has a one third chance. he also needs to perform extremely well in the presidential debates which are different than the primary debates. >> you know, mr. sammon, i believe there is a chance that hillary clinton won't debate him. and she will say, particularly if it gets really nasty and personal. she will say, look, i'm not going to put myself through it i don't know, i mean, i can't predict that will happen, but there is a chance because i'm trying to put myself in each candidate wants shoes, and if trump is really going to town on monica lewenski and these things, i don't think mrs. clinton will show up and she will say, look, nobody would. but, if it does happe

mr. sammon. >> yes.with hillary clinton's message it needs to be a more powerful and dynamic message than it has been. that will probably come in the fall. all things are going to change after the political conventions. the fall debates, for instance, i continue to think they will be very important -- >> -- yeah, i agree. >> and she will show up. >> sure. she is smart. everybody knows she is smart. the deficits go after are considerable and visa versa. but, i continue to say that right now mrs. clinton has got to start thinking about, doctor, expanding her base a little bit. she can't just run on a far left platform. last word. >> what we are looking at is a platform that is fairly middle of the road. we are looking at somebody who doesn't need to expand the electorate. the electorate that won for obama is more than enough for her to take this time around. she just needs to hold ground to obama and not use too many other states. >> hold what he put together. >> she has to hold what he put together. she ♪