mr. samuelson.t time the subcommittee held a hearing on the topic was in 2013. that's going on ten years ago. and at that time, atvs were still considered a technology of the future. but today there is at least 1400 including automatic commercial vehicles being tested on u.s. roadways in 36 different states. what do you think is a realistic timeline for the deployment of your technology specifically vehicles with level four automation and above and what can americans expect, when can americans expect to see the vehicles driving on the roads next to them? >> madam chair, i'm happy to jump in and then deeper to my colleagues on the panel here. i think as a baseline matter, we see this technology on the roads today as you noted. one of the most important things to see this technology scale, and again it is as noted being used in pilot projects carrying freight and helping to alleviate the crisis that we face as well as other instances where the technology is one example in arizona providing meals to in

mr. samuelson have every stage of automated development. including research testing and implementation. you elaborate and tell me how this is implemented how workers have a seat at the table every step of the way? >> yes. and what definitely needs to be done is that the federal government needs to set up a framework to protect workers and jobs and allow a situation where transit providers implement technology that eliminates workers. the federal government has an ability to have transit employers to develop engage in workforce development investment and to engage with communities and workers in such a way where they are discussed well ahead of time before the time of implementation and those are happening now where they had power for instance in new york city that is a common element with the contracts in new york. but the federal government needs to adopt the uniform standards with city after city after city. >> my policymaking always centers around the building the transportation system acceptable for all is always a top priority. i do have additional questions i will submit for the r