mr. sander son, maybe you can explain in some of the questions here that have been put before you. also, is there an evaluation mechanism for this program that we can give feedback to that i would like to hear about? i think that would answer quite a few questions that folks have. i am interested in understanding what that looks like. i do know that we had school site staff come before us at public comment a few meetings ago and speak to how much they appreciated this particular work that was happening in professional development at their schools. i think i would like to hear from you. >> there is an internal and external evaluation of this. the internal evaluation is done by research planning and accountability. you got the summary of that evaluation in a report that i gave you about three weeks ago in a white notebook. i have the full evaluation. the national urban alliance does their own evaluation. they do a mid-year and an end of year evaluation. so there are actually two evaluations done on it, one internal and one external. >> will he be able to see the other documents once

mr. sanders, want to raise the estate tax to 65 percent and make a retroactive -- it retroactive to january of this year, so jenna, studies suggest that one in ten commercial farms will be hit by this estate tax, and these guys are scrambling out here, jenna, they're doing a lot of estate planning, they're hiring an army of lawyers and accountants to deal with it, and they're also saying that they may need to even sell their businesses, they're small businesses or their farms, to even pay the estate tax, jenna. so it's a very big deal out here. jenna: we talk a lot about debt, elizabeth. i know we've talked about it on this show quite a bit. how much federal tax revenue does the estate tax raise? >> reporter: yeah, this is the issue that really bothers a lot of people who have to deal with the estate tax, a lot of the opponents of what people call the death tax. they say it only raises 22 billion, $25 billion, every year, so that's not -- that's a lot of money, that about covers the annual dollar amount of cost of pork barrel spending in congress. so they're saying for that reason alone, th

mr. chairman. >> thank you. senator sanders. >> thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, secretary shinseki, and the other witnesses, for showing up for today's very important hearing. i want to applaud secretary shinseki on a number of issues for stepping up to the plate and for his bold leadership in addressing some very long- standing problems facing the veterans community. i want to express my support for his decision based on existing law. that is the main point to be made today -- based on existing law. there are three new presumptive medical conditions as service- connected for vietnam veterans. i want to say to my colleagues what they know. what we're talking about today is the ongoing cost of war. this is what war is about. and more the bullets, guns, and airplanes. it is about making sure that we take care of the last veteran who served. we do that person just this. if we do not want to do that, do not send them to war. if you make that decision and that is the moral responsibility we have. we have witness repeatedly wartime decisions that were tools

sanders. senator, good to have you with us tonight. can you respond to mr.ten's comment about domestic jobs does not stimulate economic growth or enhance competitiveness of american worldwide companies? what about that? >> give you an example, during the bush years, a large multinational corporations in this country threw 2 million american workers off of their payrolls. simultaneously they hired 2 million workers in foreign countries. we have lost during the bush years, alone, 30% of our manufacturing jobs going from 17 million down to 12 million. one of the reasons is the working class in this country is being decimated and the middle class is disappearing is that we're not producing manufacturing jobs in this country. we're not making the products that the american people are buying. and clearly, from the chamber of commerce's point of view, if they could make 5 cents more by shutting down a plant in america and moving to china or moving to india, that's what they will do, that's what they have been doing. it's an absolute outrage. the demand from the ame

sanders. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman and mr. lew for joining us my good friend, mr.can friends are concerned but let us remind some of us in the voting for the war iraq and iraq that $3 trillion wasn't paid for. not me, not many others. some of us voted for huge tax breaks for the rich. many hundreds of billions of dollars which added to part of the problem of how under bush we almost doubled the national debt. some of us voted for it, some of us didn't. some of us voted for the medicare part of the prescription drug program written by the insurance companies that was not paid for. some of those voted for it and some of us didn't. >> know, some of us didn't. >> i wasn't talking about you in particular but it did pass under republican leadership. some food for the wall street bailout. some of the money was repaid, some of it wasn't. some of us didn't vote. so we before we talk about the serious of the debt and i agree it is a serious issue, let's remember how we got there, who voted for the sum paid programs and who didn't. but mr. lew, welcome and thank you for a muc

sanders. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman and mr. lew for joining us my good friend, mr. ensign, i'm glad my republican friends are concerned but let us remind some of us in the voting for the war iraq and iraq that $3 trillion wasn't paid for. not me, not many others. some of us voted for huge tax breaks for the rich. many hundreds of billions of dollars which added to part of the problem of how under bush we almost doubled the national debt. some of us voted for it, some of us didn't. some of us voted for the medicare part of the prescription drug program written by the insurance companies that was not paid for. some of those voted for it and some of us didn't. >> know, some of us didn't. >> i wasn't talking about you in particular but it did pass under republican leadership. some food for the wall street bailout. some of the money was repaid, some of it wasn't. some of us didn't vote. so we before we talk about the serious of the debt and i agree it is a serious issue, let's remember how we got there, who voted for the sum paid programs and who didn't. but mr. lew, wel