mr. sawyer, the fire chief just moments ago.licopter to monitor what is being said there in philadelphia. they've -- they basically have said what a great team they had. the great job that had been done be officials but that one item of news did come from the fire chief mr. sawyer. i want to go back to caleb who is with us. caleb let me tell the audience again that you were on that train. you were on your way to us here in new york yesterday. earlier you told us that you had no indication that the train was traveling at over 100 miles per hour. right before the impact, you had no indication that it was going that fast. tell us what it was like when the train actually hit and you realized that had been a tragic accident? >> so i was in the very last train. different accounts people have said they vary by train. by train car. so i was in the very last car and to me it was all very sudden, very quick. i was sort of dazing off, i had any laptop in empty seat next to me. had the phone on listening to some music on my iphone i started

mr. sawyer the city architecture tech in the context with the extension of health care to every else. same lukes, hospital, to keep medical care available in the southern side of the city this represents the initial push to make sure that basically working class neighborhoods, could have medical care it's a fascinating history so i would like to thank the staff for their study, i would like the community to know this will not be a burden on staff, and we will work with staff's direction, please give us an opportunity. thank you. >> thank you, any other members of the public? close public comment, and bring it back to the commission commissioner johns? >> i'm fascinated by this story about thank the public for bringing this to us particularly, i'm impressed that the health care is part

mr. sawyer which he states exactly that same conclusion. and there is an affidavit of donald f. terry, who is currently employed on the committee of the small business, but what i stuff them on the commission of administrative review, which was charged in 1976 with the responsibility of drafting new rules of official conduct for the house. most of what he refers to have to do with the question of lawyers. in these matters these free people who had a great deal to do with writing the rules say that is not what they intended when they wrote the rules. where else might you turn if you are indicted? you might go to an advisory committee and see what has given. appendix e is an advisory number which defines who has i direct interest in legislation under the law. says that if the member does not believe that the donor of the gift has a distinct or special interest in the congressional legislative process which sets and clearly a part from the general public, then the number should feel free to accept those gifts. that is the piece of advice of the committee if they remember. it lists

if michael sawyer had the chance you would have killed him with your bare hands when he was alive, right? >> we tried. i had officers who had given chances to kill him. mr. clinton was reluctant. >> i don't want cnn viewers to be -- >> we treated him with gloves. we had been his main ally throughout this war. >> what i'm take from you is that you believe bin laden -- it was your job to study him -- believed him to be transparent. he did what he said he was going to do. that's all you needed to understand about the guy. somewhere along the political leadership line -- >> we demonized him. it's easier to kill if you demonize him. i bet there's no one in the senior levels of bush government or obama government that has read his words. if they did, they can't read very well. >> i know you read his words. let me ask you. now looking at what's going on in iraq and syria today, is this what he wanted? did he want to establish a caliphate? or did he want the united states off what he regarded as arabian peninsula? >> he wanted caliphate. he did not believe the time was right. what came out of documents, he had a structured plan. first drive americans out of the

if michael sawyer had the chance, you'd have killed him with your own bare lands when he was alive, right? >> we tried very hard. i had some wonderful officers who gave mro kill him. and mr. clint nt was reluctant. >> i don't want cnn viewers to be mistaken in the way in which you held contempt and still do for bin laden. >> i think we treated him with kid gloves sir, and we throughout had been his main ally throughout this war. >> what i'm taking away from you is that you believe that bin laden -- and you studied him, it was your job to study him -- you believed him to be trance parent. he said what he meant and he did what he said he was going to do and frankly that's all you needed to understand about the guy and somewhere along the way our political leadership maligned what he was all about. is that fair? >> yes, sir. we demonized him, which is fine. it's easier to kill if you demonize him. i bet there's no one in the senior levels of the bush government or the obama government that has read his words. if they did, then they can't read very well. >> i know you read his words. let me ask you, now taking a look at what's going on in iraq and syria tod