mr. scharf. he's consented to talk, right? his wife's death stephen scharf was freely answering detectives' questions. and it was true, there were other women. >> he told us they had an open marriage. they were seeing different people. he actually said he had been with like 50 to 60 women. >> she was okay with it, according to him. >> according to him, yeah. >> but he told detectives he and jody had become unhappy with their free love lifestyle, so they came to this romantic if treacherous spot to recommit to each other, stephen said, to kiss and make up. >> and the spot where they went is not a spot you'd go to reconcile with anybody. >> detectives weren't buying the story for another reason. they had found something suspicious inside scharf's car, a bag filled with items you'd expect for a romantic picnic and one you would not, a hammer. >> oh, yeah, your wine, cheese, crackers, opener, claw hammer. i mean, if red flags are going up, they reached the top of the pole at that point. >> did you think that might be a murder weapo