. >> schieffer: all right. mr. king, we want to thank you very much for joining us this morning. thanks so much. >> bob, thank you. >> schieffer: and joining us now the number two democrat in the senate richard durbin, he's in springfield, illinois this morning and new hampshire republican kelly ayot she is in nashua this morning. can go to pick up on what peter king was saying. do you think that in somehow, some way that the president's state of the union speech backfired as he suggested, in other words, when the president said, we want -- if the republicans want to help, okay, but if they don't, we're just going to go it alone. do you think that has caused republicans to step back and say, okay, if he wants to go it alone, let him go. >> well, bob, today the excuse is state of the union address when it comes to their opposition to the president, any excuse will do. look at the immigration issue, the president stepped back said i'm not going to involve myself or chide or push house republicans i want them to come to the agreement to support the bipartisan senate immigration refor