mr. schneider, i will give you the last minute to talk about that.uest: there are definitely ways to bend the cost curve. online education is one of the most promising ones. but we have to get better at it. there is some evidence that it can work but not in the way it has been delivered up to now. if we get better at it, that is a definite way in which that we could possibly reduce costs. imagine shorter degrees. example, why is a bachelors degree a four-year degree even though most people take six years to get it -- why four years? is it possible to imagine a three-year degree? the third part related to both of those is a big shift away from credit hours to copper tenancy-based education. that may ultimately drive the costs down. you get credit for what you learn. you demonstrate what you learn at your own pace. when you master a subject, you do not have to spend 14 weeks sitting in a classroom to show that you mastered it. you move on. host: mark schneider is the president of college measures. jack buckley, commissioner for the national center for

schneider and donald trump were on "new day" hitting back. >> we've had the sworn testimony of the former president of trump university who says, i mean, mr.rump claims he wrote the curricular and was very involved. he said it himself. the president said he insisted on seeing all the promotional materials and he was the pitchman. he was in all the videos. people came to the seminars they were thinking to meet him and all they got was the chance to stand next to a life-size poster to make it appear as if they had met him. >> we have and had a great school. 98% approval. of course, he doesn't mention this. we gave a report card on ourself to every student who took the course. 98%. if you go to warden or harvard, they don't have a 98% approval rating. we had a 98% approval rating, chris. >> on "new day" throughout that interview he was fired up about it. he explained why he thinks, carol, that this lawsuit has no merit. carol? >> it's getting a little political, too. didn't he suggest that maybe, you know, as a democratic attorney general and donald trump as a well-known conservative, et cetera, et cetera. >> yeah. if you ask trump, especiall