mr. schwab. mr. holmes, i'm familiar with your neck of the woods. you have some pretty nice deer hunting up there in the black belt so my family enjoys your area. let me ask you being from alabama, talk about -- we've talked about, you know, the ninth circuit and what has occurred. it seems to me that the epa in many ways produces solutions that are looking for problems. so tell me about your area. i know you're several -- a couple hundred miles north of us but relating to that issue and even piggy back off what mr. schwab has said. >> yes, sir. one of the other things that i would like to address that mr. schwab said that i think would be beneficial to you is in the south we also have a pine beetle. we have the southern pine beetle in the south. and it has devastated us back in the 80, really devastated us. >> yes, sir. >> and he was talking about the cost of his equipment and getting things done. in florida we had little pulp wood trucks and in alabama we had the little pulp wood trucks running

mr. schwab. go ahead and proceed with your five minutes. >> congressman sutherland, thank you search for your opportunity to be here. >> just give me a second here. i apologize. i do want to do a housekeeping thing. i introduced mr. costa for the purpose of unanimous consent request. >> thank you for your courtesy and thank the witnesses on an issue that is important for the subcommittee to deal with. unfortunately have i to go but i'd like to have unanimous con isn't to submit testimony from land state alliance from the iowa natural heritage foundation on giving states more conservation options for implementing the usda forest legacy program and i have some questions also that i'd like to submit for the record and have unanimous consent on that and thank my colleagues for the courtesy and would like to submit that for the record. >> without objection. thank you. >> thank you very much. and we need to work together for all of the right reasons. thank you so much. >> apologize, mr. schwab. go ahea

mr. schwab. proceed with your five minutes. >> thank you, mr. thompson and mr. sutherland and i appreciate the opportunity -- >> just give me a second here. i apologize. i do just want to do housekeeping thing. i introduced for unanimous consent request. >> i think the witnesses for an issue that's important for this to committee to deal with. unfortunately going to have to go, but they too have unanimous consent to submit testimony from a statement of land trust alliance for the iowa natural heritage foundation, pacific trust, society for protection of new hampshire forests of vermont land trust to be reported at the subcommittee on energy and conservation on giving states more conservation options for implementing the usta forest legacy program on i.c.e. and questions i'd like to submit for the record and have unanimous consent. i think my colleagues for the courtesy and would like to submit that for the record. >> with that objection. >> thank you very much. we need to work together for the ri

mr. schwab with 22 years of experience in the forestry industry and he is representing the southeastern wood producing organization. as well as the american logger's council. i commend mr. schaub for his -- i yield back. >> thank you, schaub. i do just want to do a housekeeping thing, i introduced mr. -- >> thank you very much mr. chairman for your courtesy and thank the witnesses for an -- unfortunately, i am going to have to go, but i would like to have unanimous consent to submit testimony, a statement of land trust alliance from the society for the protection of new hampshire forests on giving states more conservation options for implementing the usda forest legacy program. i have some statements that i would like to put into the record. thank my colleagues for their courtesy and would like to submit that to the record. we need to work together for all of the right reasons. >> apologize mr. schaub, so go ahead and start over with your five minutes of testimony. >> thank you, chairman thompson, i appreciate that. i am richard schaub, i'm a third generation logger who has worked in the for

mr. schwab said. >> yes, sir. one of the things our like to address that i think would be beneficial to you is that in the south, it has devastated is back in the 1980's. it really devastated us. he was talking iraq because of his equipment and getting things done. in florida, we have little trucks running around with people that would get out and take care of these small areas i am just wondering -- of the small areas. i am just wondering what is going to happen. we are due for another slam. what is going to happen when you call up someone who has to bring half a million dollars of equipment and cut 20 acres of pine beetle infestation? he is going to laugh at you. i'm very worried about what is going to happen now because we had small bases that could go in and cut out these areas and attend to that. we do not have that now. it will be something to look at. as mr. burke said, i have 4,000 acres of timber on my farm. the whole family has about 18,000 acres of timberland. we maintain our own roads. when we cut timb

mr. schwab. start over with your five minutes of testimony. >> i am a third generation of log per two has been educated and july -- trained in a master logger. representing my head companies we are harvesting company in florida and we practice sustainable farming over 22 years. but being a part of the national bloggers council at. >> the first concern is toward the analysis program. is the best resource we have to measure outcomes. the date is used to create jobs. i have worked with other companies to help develop regions in their country. the bush ask you to reaffirm the analysis program to mahan's feet it means there is no federal forstmann to prepare contracts used for healthy forest and increase projections. we have $0.4 a was first we of rise congress to reauthorize the 2012 farm bill. we ask you to reauthorize national institution is food act to maintain their current funding level. like company has worked with the extension to harvest biomass on a project and i personally have seen the cro

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