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mr. scott's car. and so in the video with the officer, in this dash cam you hear him saying it's not my car yet, i'm buying the car, i'm in the process, my car is gone, i don't have any paperwork, whathave you. needless to say, he didn't have any of the paperwork but is that a reason to run? i don't think so. what this does it shows what happened before the first video we saw but it doesn't really tell the story of why he ran. i don't know why someone would run if they are in the process of buying a car unless the car is stolen who knows. according to the family the car is not stolen. he was in the process he says of buying the car. still, is that a reason to run? i don't know. definitely not a reason to lose your life because it doesn't show what happens in the interim after he leaves the car, between the car and what happens in that field, then when mr. santana's video starts to roll. that's the part that we don't know at this point. we could hear some of it. we could hear it. we see the officer com
mr. scott's car. and so in the video with the officer, in this dash cam you hear him saying it's not my car yet, i'm buying the car, i'm in the process, my car is gone, i don't have any paperwork, whathave you. needless to say, he didn't have any of the paperwork but is that a reason to run? i don't think so. what this does it shows what happened before the first video we saw but it doesn't really tell the story of why he ran. i don't know why someone would run if they are in the process of...
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. >> so mr. scottis obviously ♪ e video separately without subtitles because we're not sure what exactly is being said but officer slager appears to be out of the vehicle and appears to be saying, taser, taser, taser and then 25 seconds later, get on the ground. take a look and listen. you can decide for yourself. >> get on the ground! the actual shooting, nor does it show the scuffle or struggle or altercation that immediately precede preceded the gunfire. it does give us a window on the incident tonight we did not have until today. let's get the panel's take on it. joining us, cnn legal analyst mark geragos and nypd harry houck and ny times charles blow. does it change anything? >> not as far as the shooting is concerned. looks like the typical stop. he was courteous, asked him for information and asked questions, apparently something wrong with the car or insurance or registration and the officer is going back to the vehicle and looks like he was probably going to run him for warrants and i think th
. >> so mr. scottis obviously ♪ e video separately without subtitles because we're not sure what exactly is being said but officer slager appears to be out of the vehicle and appears to be saying, taser, taser, taser and then 25 seconds later, get on the ground. take a look and listen. you can decide for yourself. >> get on the ground! the actual shooting, nor does it show the scuffle or struggle or altercation that immediately precede preceded the gunfire. it does give us a...
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mr. scott is dead. if he was killed in the most dishonorable way a person can be killed which is shot in the back while you are fleeing from someone, so you can't, until you can show me something, anybody can show me something that posed a threat to the person that killed him, none of that changes it. and i think we run a danger of getting deep into the weeds when we start trying to litigate people's lives when they are no longer alive. that is what the justice system is for. is to litigate people's lives when they are alive. there are justice remedies for all of the things that mr. scott is alleged to have done wrong and not saying he didn't do things wrong, but there are justice remedies and none of them include a death sentence. >> the other thing about it charles, i've gotten tweets from people saying you shouldn't run from police. there's no i don't care how much you ran for police. no justification for shooting someone in the back. >> no justification. >> and even just from a, again, i'm not a pol
mr. scott is dead. if he was killed in the most dishonorable way a person can be killed which is shot in the back while you are fleeing from someone, so you can't, until you can show me something, anybody can show me something that posed a threat to the person that killed him, none of that changes it. and i think we run a danger of getting deep into the weeds when we start trying to litigate people's lives when they are no longer alive. that is what the justice system is for. is to litigate...
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we can't bring mr. scott back. but something like this today can have a bigger precedence than just what happened here with mr. scott. because what happened today doesn't happen all the time. what if there was no video? what if there was no witness or hero as i call him, to come forward? >> thank you lord! >> then this wouldn't have happened. because as you can see the initial reports stated something totally different. the officer said that mr. scott attacked him and pulled his taser and tried to use it on him. but somebody was watching. >> thank you lord. hallelujah. >> there was a witness that came forward with a video. and the initial reports were wrong, and that doesn't happen all the time across this country. it doesn't happen if you're african-american. it doesn't happen if you're caucasian. if things happen when nobody is watching would we be here today or would it have just been -- >> joining us by phone is another one of the attorneys present there this evening, attorney for walter scott's family. mr. bam
we can't bring mr. scott back. but something like this today can have a bigger precedence than just what happened here with mr. scott. because what happened today doesn't happen all the time. what if there was no video? what if there was no witness or hero as i call him, to come forward? >> thank you lord! >> then this wouldn't have happened. because as you can see the initial reports stated something totally different. the officer said that mr. scott attacked him and pulled his...
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mr. scott's brother, mr.hony said that he has a record of about ten arrest and most of those are for owing back child support. >> and this is the second part of the video that he was running away and you can see slager is looking around afterwards and looking around and look ging around, and what is that telling you, casey? >> he should have tunnel vision on the man he shot. he doesn't know if the man is armed or what. he is looking around to see who saw what i just did. that is not a normal reaction and he should be tunnel visioned looking at the man who, if it is a justified shooting who just threatened his life. >> neil? >> i am amazed how focused he was when he fired the eight rounds. i mean steady in the stance and took aim, and very foecused on mr. scott when he was running away and it is not like a knee jerk reaction and he fired two rounds, and said oh my god. >> it is seeming intentional to you and in control? >> absolutely. >> and you have trained police officers, and everybody said that he has made
mr. scott's brother, mr.hony said that he has a record of about ten arrest and most of those are for owing back child support. >> and this is the second part of the video that he was running away and you can see slager is looking around afterwards and looking around and look ging around, and what is that telling you, casey? >> he should have tunnel vision on the man he shot. he doesn't know if the man is armed or what. he is looking around to see who saw what i just did. that is not...
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the dashcam video from the officer's patrol car shows mr. scottnly bolting from the mercedes that he was driving except for a passenger in scott's car, there was no one else who was visible. but a witness tells cnn in an exclusive interview that she saw mr. scott and the police officer tussle nearby to that field shortly before mr. scott was shot to death. officer michael slager who was fired from his job in the north charleston police department is now sitting in a jail cell and he is charged with mr. scott's murder. the county sheriff tells cnn that officer slager is in a cell by himself, that he is isolated from the general population and that he is frequently being monitored for his mental health. video of officer michael slager's actions right after the shooting of walter scott is raising some troubling questions about what he was actually doing. was he, in fact, trying to plant evidence to justify the shooting or was it something else? our kyung lah reports. >> reporter: officer michael slager shooting walter scott is shocking enough, but it
the dashcam video from the officer's patrol car shows mr. scottnly bolting from the mercedes that he was driving except for a passenger in scott's car, there was no one else who was visible. but a witness tells cnn in an exclusive interview that she saw mr. scott and the police officer tussle nearby to that field shortly before mr. scott was shot to death. officer michael slager who was fired from his job in the north charleston police department is now sitting in a jail cell and he is charged...
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mr. scott's body. it appears to be the same object that he picked up closer to where the altercation took place. was he in fact planting evidence? a short time later, he picks something up from the same side of the body where he dropped that object. perhaps, the same object he had drop dropped moments before. we'll look at that night, any and all of it could have a major impact on the case. in the next two hours, we're on for two hours because there's an awful lot of angles to cover on this story and an awful lot of people to talk to. criminal justice experts weigh in on what we see but first, martin savidge on all the major developments up till now. >> reporter: one day after releasing this shocking video -- >> no justice! no peace! >> reporter: north charleston is now feeling the fallout. >> this has been a reality that has been in north charleston police department for many many years. it just so happens we have a video. >> reporter: demonstrators gathered in front of city hall demanding the mayor r
mr. scott's body. it appears to be the same object that he picked up closer to where the altercation took place. was he in fact planting evidence? a short time later, he picks something up from the same side of the body where he dropped that object. perhaps, the same object he had drop dropped moments before. we'll look at that night, any and all of it could have a major impact on the case. in the next two hours, we're on for two hours because there's an awful lot of angles to cover on this...
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mr. scott> reporter: slager joined two years ago. in 2013 he was exonerated for im improper use of tasering this man. he meant to arrest his brother for robbery. >> he pulled out his taser and told me if you don't come out, i'm going to tase you. i put my hand up moved out the way. he still shot me with the taser. >> slager's mother told abc she hasn't seen the video and said she can't imagine her son shooting an unarmed blackman while he ran away. >> i just have to let it be and hope god takes care of everybody involved. none not only for my family but for the scott's family. >> reporter: carol, getting back to that dash cam video, at the very beginning when you see walter scott's vehicle pull into the auto parts parking lot, if you look closely on the passenger's side you'll notice there's somebody there. this person could be key. now the authorities interviewed or at least detained this person for a time. they know who it is but they have not identified it either to the public or apparently
mr. scott> reporter: slager joined two years ago. in 2013 he was exonerated for im improper use of tasering this man. he meant to arrest his brother for robbery. >> he pulled out his taser and told me if you don't come out, i'm going to tase you. i put my hand up moved out the way. he still shot me with the taser. >> slager's mother told abc she hasn't seen the video and said she can't imagine her son shooting an unarmed blackman while he ran away. >> i just have to let it...
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the officer's attorney told the local paper that the officer used his taser on mr. scott in this encounter, but that it had not subdued him. walter scott tried to overpower the officer and take his taser away from him. the attorney said the officer "felt threatened" and that he followed all proper procedures before firing his gun eight times at walter scott. that was the news as of yesterday in south carolina. he was as of yesterday. things changed late today when we got another side of the story. turns out there was a cell phone video taken by a bystander of what happened. the attorney of the family of walter scott got a copy of the video and gave it to the "new york times" and they published it late today. i'm not going to play the video over and over again. it shows a man being killed. i will play it now because it is news worthy in this instance so you can see it for yourself. that cell phone video, again, was publiced just tonight by the "new york times." the paper got it from the lower for walter scott's family. i want to show you one more thing from the aftermath o
the officer's attorney told the local paper that the officer used his taser on mr. scott in this encounter, but that it had not subdued him. walter scott tried to overpower the officer and take his taser away from him. the attorney said the officer "felt threatened" and that he followed all proper procedures before firing his gun eight times at walter scott. that was the news as of yesterday in south carolina. he was as of yesterday. things changed late today when we got another side...
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i saw mr. scotter that i saw just the officer chasing him. then i saw, i knew they were going to a very empty spot over there, usually, like i say, i now it very well because i walk through there every singlety and i just decided to chase him and see what was going to happen. >> was the officer return as well as mr. scott running? >> yes. >> did you see the officer tase mr. scott? >> uh-huh yeah. >> where did he tase mr. scott? at that point where the video begins? >> no. way before that. before that you know i was hearing the taser sound, and like i say and the yelling of mr. scott, and that's when i was, decided to start recording. >> so congressman jim clyburn in washington has a question for you. congressman clyburn, go ahead. >> thank you, mika. i wanted to ask about the taser. it is my understanding that a taser gun once fired it cannot be fired again without a whole lot of work being done. so the gun was already fired. it would be of no use to mr. scott if he had grabbed it. so am i right that
i saw mr. scotter that i saw just the officer chasing him. then i saw, i knew they were going to a very empty spot over there, usually, like i say, i now it very well because i walk through there every singlety and i just decided to chase him and see what was going to happen. >> was the officer return as well as mr. scott running? >> yes. >> did you see the officer tase mr. scott? >> uh-huh yeah. >> where did he tase mr. scott? at that point where the video begins?...
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"the new york times" says that the officer returns to mr. scott and, quote, drops an object near walter scott's body and that maybe that object is the aforementioned taser which he said that walter scott had taken from him. the uncovering of this video appears to have radically changed the course of the investigation of this police shooting in north charleston. today the officer in this case was booked on a murder charge. the officer's name is michael slaying slager. he was arrested and charged at the north chaurls ton police station where he works. we have seen a string of police involved shootings recently where officers have used deadly force against unarmed suspects and many of those cases the officers have not been charged and that is part of why they have become such high-profile things the case in ferguson, missouri with the killing of 18-year-old michael brown, the case in staten island new york with the killing of eric garner. those police officers and both of those shootings were not charged. in the past few months though we have also se
"the new york times" says that the officer returns to mr. scott and, quote, drops an object near walter scott's body and that maybe that object is the aforementioned taser which he said that walter scott had taken from him. the uncovering of this video appears to have radically changed the course of the investigation of this police shooting in north charleston. today the officer in this case was booked on a murder charge. the officer's name is michael slaying slager. he was arrested...
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officer slager fires a taser at mr. scott, who runs away. a bystander with a camera caught what happened next. [ gunfire ] the officer then fires his gun eight times, hitting walter scott five times. approximately 9:38 a.m. officer slager radios dispatch. >> 223, shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> reporter: he then walks towards a motionless walter scott. put your hands behind your back. he handcuffs the man, jogs back and appears to pick something up. another officer is now on the scene and michael slager drops something next to walter scott. two minutes and 43 seconds after the first shots were fired, officer slager reaches down to check scott's pulse. in a moment we'll hear from that witness who recorded it all. but first we get the latest on a tense day here from nbc's gabe gutierrez. >> what do we want? >> justice! >> when do we want it? >> now! >> reporter: today in north charleston the anger boiled over. >> black lives matter! >> this has been a horrible tragedy within our community. >> reporter: the mayor announcing
officer slager fires a taser at mr. scott, who runs away. a bystander with a camera caught what happened next. [ gunfire ] the officer then fires his gun eight times, hitting walter scott five times. approximately 9:38 a.m. officer slager radios dispatch. >> 223, shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> reporter: he then walks towards a motionless walter scott. put your hands behind your back. he handcuffs the man, jogs back and appears to pick something up. another...
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but after that tussle, of course, mr. scott continues to run and then he's shot in the back five times. so whatever happened in that tussle, that's the thing that the officer will depend upon to give him a defense for the use of this physical force. frankly, when i look at the entire picture, i don't see it as a legitimate defense, because the officer is not threatened at the time he's firing the shots, regardless of what happened in the tussle. >> between this dash cam video, and the video that was initially put out there that we saw, does this give a complete picture or are there still questions and holes to be filled in >> i think there's one hole and it's a very important hole. and that is in the tussle that happened, before the shots were fired, what was said between the two men, how did the stun gun, the officer's stun gun wind up on the ground? that's going to be very important, because when jurors look at this, they're going to try to get into the mind of the officer and say why would he shoot a man in the back five tim
but after that tussle, of course, mr. scott continues to run and then he's shot in the back five times. so whatever happened in that tussle, that's the thing that the officer will depend upon to give him a defense for the use of this physical force. frankly, when i look at the entire picture, i don't see it as a legitimate defense, because the officer is not threatened at the time he's firing the shots, regardless of what happened in the tussle. >> between this dash cam video, and the...
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to be a coverup. >> this would appear inconsistent with officer slager told another officer that mr. scott took his taser. obviously he didn't. also joey i want you to listen to how officer slager then described in this dispatch ought i don't walter scott's injuries. listen we have a full screen. we don't have audio. this will do. we took it from the audio. this is officer michael slager. he said gunshots wound to the chest, the right side located another gunshot wound to the buttocks. we now know that mr. scott was shot in the back. why would the officer say there were bullet wounds to his chest? >> apparently setting up the narrative that could be told later in the absence of the video he shot him from the front. clearly the autopsy report would examine where the bullets went in. there are distinctions to be made is it clear, did it go in did it go out? if you match together three things number one, the putting of that taser next to the body. number two, the actual writing of the report whether it's the grabbing of the gun, the taking of the gun. clearly you're setting up something to ju
to be a coverup. >> this would appear inconsistent with officer slager told another officer that mr. scott took his taser. obviously he didn't. also joey i want you to listen to how officer slager then described in this dispatch ought i don't walter scott's injuries. listen we have a full screen. we don't have audio. this will do. we took it from the audio. this is officer michael slager. he said gunshots wound to the chest, the right side located another gunshot wound to the buttocks. we...
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and the barbs are now attached to mr. scott.n't take him down. >> can i ask our control room to do me a favor? can we go back to the image that shows something being dropped from the hand of the officer towards the body of mr. scott as he's on the ground? and now i'm going to re-ask you, peter gleeson, if you could look at the item -- blow it up as big as possible. does that resemble the shape of a taser, now i'm going to ask you if it resembles the shape of perhaps the cartridge that might be what flew out of his hand and flew behind him? >> again, it's not discernible. but to your point and to the point of the panel, if -- if the wire was attached to mr. scott, is it reasonable for the officer to walk with the taser device which is still attached to the -- the wires are attached to mr. scott as well as attached to this device he has in his hand. is it logical to walk over there and drop that next to him? i don't know. did he pick up the cartridge -- i'm assuming this cartridge is about the size of an average ink cartridge in a
and the barbs are now attached to mr. scott.n't take him down. >> can i ask our control room to do me a favor? can we go back to the image that shows something being dropped from the hand of the officer towards the body of mr. scott as he's on the ground? and now i'm going to re-ask you, peter gleeson, if you could look at the item -- blow it up as big as possible. does that resemble the shape of a taser, now i'm going to ask you if it resembles the shape of perhaps the cartridge that...
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but mr. scottere were no indications of real violence during that time most of the arrests have come in the past decade and in regard to failure to pay child support. the only indication violence is a charge of 1987 for assault and battery. we don't know yet what happened to that charge. but mr. scott actually liked the officer, officer slager he served about two years in the coast guard. he had four children. i know mr. slager had two stepchildren and one child on the way, actually. but mr. scott was described by a family as a family man who for something like this to happen is out of his character. >> so they could not fathom a situation in which he posed a threat for the officer. >> two questions here. one, can you tell us are you familiar with the action of the stop that occurred the vehicle, when it was pulled over and where this conversation mulligan with the cell phone video that we see? how long is that distance between the stop occurred and where two people are and the second question is c
but mr. scottere were no indications of real violence during that time most of the arrests have come in the past decade and in regard to failure to pay child support. the only indication violence is a charge of 1987 for assault and battery. we don't know yet what happened to that charge. but mr. scott actually liked the officer, officer slager he served about two years in the coast guard. he had four children. i know mr. slager had two stepchildren and one child on the way, actually. but mr....
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. >> i was walking to my job, and i see mr. scott, rest in peace, and i saw police after him, chasing him. i was on a phone call and i decide to go over there and see what was going on. they were down on the floor before the -- i started recording. they were down on the floor. i remember the police had control of the situation. he had control of scott. i believe he just ran to get away of the taser. like i say, he never used the taser against the cop. >> reporter: mr. scott runs away and what does the police officer do. >> as you can see in the video, the police officer shot him in the back. >> he also says he contemplated deleting the video because he was scared for his life. he turned the video over to the victim's family. >> i thought about his position their situation. i say that if i would have a family member and that would happen, i would like to know the truth. and then i don't believe anybody can feel good about it. he has his family mr. scott has his family. i think he made a bad decision. and you pay for your decisions and
. >> i was walking to my job, and i see mr. scott, rest in peace, and i saw police after him, chasing him. i was on a phone call and i decide to go over there and see what was going on. they were down on the floor before the -- i started recording. they were down on the floor. i remember the police had control of the situation. he had control of scott. i believe he just ran to get away of the taser. like i say, he never used the taser against the cop. >> reporter: mr. scott runs...
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to witness an officer gun down mr. scott in cold blood in the fashion and with the heartless -- the heartless nature that he did would lead i believe anyone to suspect that there could be retaliation if you were to step forward and say that, yes, i caught it on tape and yes, you were wrong. so i understand how he feels and i do not blame him. >> jonathan, it would be nice to think confidently that we live in a country where if someone like this walks into a police station that says i have a video of one of your officers that just shot and killed someone, it would be nice to think there would be no possibility of that video disappearing after you handed it over to whatever officer took it there at the desk. but obviously, mr. santana didn't have that confidence. >> no. as you said in the interview, they said hold on a minute, and he got scared and within a minute he was back at work. he decided to get the hell out of here. it's understandable, he tried to do the right thing. he tried to go to the police after reading the poli
to witness an officer gun down mr. scott in cold blood in the fashion and with the heartless -- the heartless nature that he did would lead i believe anyone to suspect that there could be retaliation if you were to step forward and say that, yes, i caught it on tape and yes, you were wrong. so i understand how he feels and i do not blame him. >> jonathan, it would be nice to think confidently that we live in a country where if someone like this walks into a police station that says i have...
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mr. scott's body. again, you see mr. scott running away. you see the officer firing eight shots. mr. scott falls down. and the officer walks towards him. tom, i want to start with you. how do you interpret what you see here? >> well what i interpret, alisyn is that the officer did not have a reason to fear for his life. and whatever they were if they were let's say trying to grab hold of the taser when they were close to each other, and the taser fell to the ground and we don't know that that's what it was for sure. but it would seem that the officer had little reason to fear for his own safety or for the safety of someone else in the community. if you have an armed person fleeing the scene of a crime, you know you might fear for other people. it seems in this case he probably had no reason to fear that mr. scott was a danger to anybody else. >> dot, what did you think when you first saw that video? >> i was very upset. i want to know why was he out of the car. if you get stopped for a broken taillight. they come up to the car and ask for your i.d. and everything like that. i don't un
mr. scott's body. again, you see mr. scott running away. you see the officer firing eight shots. mr. scott falls down. and the officer walks towards him. tom, i want to start with you. how do you interpret what you see here? >> well what i interpret, alisyn is that the officer did not have a reason to fear for his life. and whatever they were if they were let's say trying to grab hold of the taser when they were close to each other, and the taser fell to the ground and we don't know that...
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once mr. scottets out car, you hear something on the order of stop or i'll tase you, then you hear the officers yelling something like tase tase tase and then it gets garbles. if there's a protracted struggle it's kind of hard to imagine it. i guess it's theoretically possible, but those are the things you're going to look at once this goes from a case to a trial, is was there even sufficient time in the amount of time you see in this tape for there to be a struggle over a taser. so it would be interesting to see how that part of it unfolds, but all of that takes place off camera. >> what are they trying to piece together when you see this release of the tape showing the initial encounter and the tape yesterday which showed the actual shooting. tell us what the police investigators are trying to piece together. >> well, to get a timeline to pinpoint every second and do it objectively would be ideal. so objectively in the sense you're not relying on somebody's account, two compelling pieces of eviden
once mr. scottets out car, you hear something on the order of stop or i'll tase you, then you hear the officers yelling something like tase tase tase and then it gets garbles. if there's a protracted struggle it's kind of hard to imagine it. i guess it's theoretically possible, but those are the things you're going to look at once this goes from a case to a trial, is was there even sufficient time in the amount of time you see in this tape for there to be a struggle over a taser. so it would be...
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when we see mr. scotte see that it looks like his hands are bare he's just trying to break his fall on the grass. again, as he comes over to here his hands go out, hands up in the grass. >> finally, after the shooting the officers another officer or two shows up. >> right. this is kind of important here because the officer, whatever happened that the car at the original traffic stop both of those two left and ran into this park here. what's really important is when we hear the police dispatch tapes. at what point does slager the officer, ask for help call for backup or is it clear to his fellow officers that he's about to try to make an arrest on somebody who, whether he resists or fights at that point, we don't know, but he does run. so at this point, we see within a minute or two that a second officer has arrived. so it does raise the question why didn't he wait. if he had an officer that close, he should have heard it on the radio, what the estimated time of arrival was for his backup why doesn't he wai
when we see mr. scotte see that it looks like his hands are bare he's just trying to break his fall on the grass. again, as he comes over to here his hands go out, hands up in the grass. >> finally, after the shooting the officers another officer or two shows up. >> right. this is kind of important here because the officer, whatever happened that the car at the original traffic stop both of those two left and ran into this park here. what's really important is when we hear the...
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the video shows mr. scott runs as officer plaiter fires as much as eight shots. moments later in the next piece of video, officer slater instructs the victim to put his hands behind his back. he handcuffs him. officer slater walks away, goes back to the original spot, and appears to lean over the ground. finally in this final piece of video, you will see at regular speed, and then in slow motion, it appears to show the officer dropping something near mr. scott. he is walking back to the vick time in slow motion, he appears to drop the stun gun near mr. scott that is the stun gun he ran back to retrieve in the video. he was arrested, his murder charge brings a possible sentence of 30 years to life in prison with the death penalty. joining me now is brian hicks. brian, thank you for being here. the mayor and police chief of north charleston called a press conference to announce the imminent arrest and murder. do you know when they became away of the video and how they got their hands on it. >> they found out about the video just this afternoon when someone from the
the video shows mr. scott runs as officer plaiter fires as much as eight shots. moments later in the next piece of video, officer slater instructs the victim to put his hands behind his back. he handcuffs him. officer slater walks away, goes back to the original spot, and appears to lean over the ground. finally in this final piece of video, you will see at regular speed, and then in slow motion, it appears to show the officer dropping something near mr. scott. he is walking back to the vick...
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mr. scott was on the ground. >> did you hear mr. scott say anything during all of this? >> no. no. nothing. i think he was hurt by the taser. >> at the end of the video that you shot, you see the officer put something down. >> i saw that now on the video. i didn't catch that part when he drop. i did notice that he went back when he was standing -- when he was with mr. scott. he did pick something up. i never saw him that he dropped. i just saw when he pick it up, and pick it up again beside the victim. >> but you couldn't tell what it was that he picked up? >> no. not on the victim's side. but over there, i knew it was a taser, when he went back again to get the taser. but never saw that he dropped the taser, like i say. but i guess i saw that he picked something up. i didn't know what it was. >> after you viewed this video from your cell phone, then what did you do with it? >> after that, i kind of thought, you know, in my head, i just -- like i say, i knew the magnitude of this, and i tried to -- i even thought about erasing the video. >> why? >> i don't know. i felt that my life
mr. scott was on the ground. >> did you hear mr. scott say anything during all of this? >> no. no. nothing. i think he was hurt by the taser. >> at the end of the video that you shot, you see the officer put something down. >> i saw that now on the video. i didn't catch that part when he drop. i did notice that he went back when he was standing -- when he was with mr. scott. he did pick something up. i never saw him that he dropped. i just saw when he pick it up, and...
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mr. scott had been stopped for having a broken brake light. he died here the latest killing of an african-american man by a white police officer. the police man, michael slager 33 said he felt threatened. he explained his actions over the radio. >> shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> but the video made the difference. >> as a result of that video and the bad decision made by our officer, he will be charged with murder. >> now michael slager is in prison at a time of heightened attention over similar shootings, the police made a point of releasing the footage of him being charged. there was an outcry from mr. scott's family after the shoot shooting on saturday when the policeman claimed he acted within the guidelines. >> he needs to know that wasn't an animal that he killed he was my son. >> reporter: mr. scott's family welcomed the police officer's arrest. >> i don't want to see any get shot down the way that my brother got shot down. we've all seen the video. if there wasn't a video, would we know the truth? or would we have
mr. scott had been stopped for having a broken brake light. he died here the latest killing of an african-american man by a white police officer. the police man, michael slager 33 said he felt threatened. he explained his actions over the radio. >> shots fired. subject is down. he grabbed my taser. >> but the video made the difference. >> as a result of that video and the bad decision made by our officer, he will be charged with murder. >> now michael slager is in prison...
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tom, when mr. scott opens the door and runs out of the car, at that point you know the officer already had his license, did the officer have to chase him? >> yes. the officer has to chase him. you don't know what he might have just done. you don't know if he's just committed a crime, an armed robbery somewhere, a murder somewhere. child, pedophilia somewhere. is there a body in the trunk? did he steal the car? that's a mercedes after all he didn't have any of the paperwork. he had what seems like a pretty weak explanation about the car. but even then, the officer doesn't challenge him. because he hands the officer a piece of paper, is it really his license? the officer needs to know are there warrants out for that person? is the license valid. all of that has to go on. and when a person takes off like that in that situation, which they're not supposed to do he's really you know under the control of the police officer, of explaining the traffic stop explaining the car. he's not supposed to get out and run
tom, when mr. scott opens the door and runs out of the car, at that point you know the officer already had his license, did the officer have to chase him? >> yes. the officer has to chase him. you don't know what he might have just done. you don't know if he's just committed a crime, an armed robbery somewhere, a murder somewhere. child, pedophilia somewhere. is there a body in the trunk? did he steal the car? that's a mercedes after all he didn't have any of the paperwork. he had what...
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>> we should point out, he stayed in the vehicle while mr. scott ran.he second officer who arrived on the scene after mr. scott was gunned down. the officer we see in the video, there are a number of calls now for some kind of legal action to be taken against him as well, right? >> clarence habersham. he's the officer that you can see, the african american officer who comes up on scene. and yes, there's a growing number of protesters that are saying that he too should be if not investigated he should be charged with something. they claim he didn't render aid as he claimed he it done in the police report he gave. and they believe that in some ways he's actually aiding officer slager in the account that was initially given. so that's why you're hearing that outcry. you don't hear it so much here in the community. most people are standing by waiting to see what further investigation reveals. >> he puts on medical gloves and seems to put pressure at a later time on mr. scott. but there's several minutes if i'm not mistaken go by before he actually does that
>> we should point out, he stayed in the vehicle while mr. scott ran.he second officer who arrived on the scene after mr. scott was gunned down. the officer we see in the video, there are a number of calls now for some kind of legal action to be taken against him as well, right? >> clarence habersham. he's the officer that you can see, the african american officer who comes up on scene. and yes, there's a growing number of protesters that are saying that he too should be if not...
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i witnessed mr. scott come inging out of where the -- >> the auto part store. >> i saw maybe five seconds later i saw the cop after him, yelling to stop. my first thought somebody happened about it. i just ran to the scene to see what was going on. when i saw him that they were on the floor. he was down. the police was up trying to get control of him. i approached to the scene, when i see that, you know, this was p -- >> you saw the police tase him? >> yes. you can hear the sound before i started the video. i just decide to take my phone out. you know, maybe to try to see that the cop was over there standing there, you know. i started recording. that's when everything happened. >> so you're watching this. and what's going through your mind? >> the scene? >> yeah, the scene. >> like i say, i never expect this, you know, to come out this way. never thought i would have the policeman shooting him. like i say, the man was running away from the police. i believe that he maybe was scared of the taser, you know,
i witnessed mr. scott come inging out of where the -- >> the auto part store. >> i saw maybe five seconds later i saw the cop after him, yelling to stop. my first thought somebody happened about it. i just ran to the scene to see what was going on. when i saw him that they were on the floor. he was down. the police was up trying to get control of him. i approached to the scene, when i see that, you know, this was p -- >> you saw the police tase him? >> yes. you can hear...
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a funeral set for mr. scott. why his family is reportedly asking one civil rights leader to please stay away. let's talk live in the "cnn newsroom" newsroom". >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we want to take you now to ft. hood texas, where the purple heart will be awarded to those killed or wounded in that mass shooting that took place more than five years ago now. the army will also award the defense of medal freedom, the civilian equivalent of the purple heart, to nonmilitary victims. the secretary of the army says the recognition is "an appropriate recognition of their service and sacrifice." of course you remember that former army psych ietiatrist nadal hasan committed those shootings. >>> people across illinois missouri and iowa getting their first look at towns and lives devastated in the wake of those deadly tornadoes. listen to how a chopper pilot describes the destruction below him. >> dressers chairs and in the center of your screen even a piano. all of it exposed
a funeral set for mr. scott. why his family is reportedly asking one civil rights leader to please stay away. let's talk live in the "cnn newsroom" newsroom". >>> good morning. i'm carol costello. thank you so much for joining me. we want to take you now to ft. hood texas, where the purple heart will be awarded to those killed or wounded in that mass shooting that took place more than five years ago now. the army will also award the defense of medal freedom, the civilian...
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mr. scott's life. >> reporter: erin tonight here at city hall a vigil for walter scott.y people wearing shirts that say black lives matter. tomorrow scott's family will say their final good-byes. his funeral scheduled for 11:00 a.m. erin. >> all right. thank you very much. now, attorney daryl parks. leapt he represents the family of michael brown. that was the black teenager shot and killed by a white officer in ferguson missouri. daryl, let me start with you because we have this new dash cam video from this shooting. every piece of video is shocking and hard to watch, incredible to believe that it's true. we could get more video. we're watsiting for more video. it may disturb me. it may disturb you and everyone watching but can any of this new evidence change the case? >> without question it can't. i think the additional footage that we're receiving is additional to be considered. the main video is the video where the officer squarely stands and shoots multiple shots at many scott. those things speak for themselves. >> paul a witness says there was a tussle. that's the
mr. scott's life. >> reporter: erin tonight here at city hall a vigil for walter scott.y people wearing shirts that say black lives matter. tomorrow scott's family will say their final good-byes. his funeral scheduled for 11:00 a.m. erin. >> all right. thank you very much. now, attorney daryl parks. leapt he represents the family of michael brown. that was the black teenager shot and killed by a white officer in ferguson missouri. daryl, let me start with you because we have this...
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he may know why mr. scott out of the car about there's new audio tonight of slager talking to a senior officer shortly after he killed mr. scott. what do we know about this passenger, first of all? >> first and foremost, we know the name, that is pierre d. fulton, 29 years of age, he's from north charleston, the same community that all of this is taking place. we should point out he does have a criminal record. most seriously, and i guess most recently unlawful carrying of a weapon here. as you point out, what is the most important thing, is where he was on that terrible saturday morning, he was seated right next to walter scott. that's the information that he's conveyed to investigating authorities, there's also new information that comes from the police officer, mark slager himself in his own words. take a listen. >> caught on tape, conversations in which slager can be heard laughing shortly after shooting walter scott to death. the cameras of other responding officers. first we hear slager getting a phone c
he may know why mr. scott out of the car about there's new audio tonight of slager talking to a senior officer shortly after he killed mr. scott. what do we know about this passenger, first of all? >> first and foremost, we know the name, that is pierre d. fulton, 29 years of age, he's from north charleston, the same community that all of this is taking place. we should point out he does have a criminal record. most seriously, and i guess most recently unlawful carrying of a weapon here....
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and hopefully justice will be carried out. >> mr. scott i just ask you to describe what you first saw? i know that you actually arrived at the scene? your mother called to say your brother had been tasered in an encounter with the police. can you tell us what happened and what you saw that day? >> well, when i got to the scene, the first thing i saw was the cop -- the police car, and my brother's car wrapped in tape, police tape. they secured the area. and i knew something was wrong at that time. and then when i walked up to my nephew, he told me that my brother was gone. and then i proceeded to ask what happened to my brother. i know, because a traffic stop, that's no reason to have someone tasered to death. that's what i originally believed had happened. but what actually had happened, he had gotten shot. i didn't learn that until later on that day. >> mr. stewart, i'll ask you. a lot of people in the national media in particular have been asking sort of counterfactual question, what would have happened had this video not come to light?
and hopefully justice will be carried out. >> mr. scott i just ask you to describe what you first saw? i know that you actually arrived at the scene? your mother called to say your brother had been tasered in an encounter with the police. can you tell us what happened and what you saw that day? >> well, when i got to the scene, the first thing i saw was the cop -- the police car, and my brother's car wrapped in tape, police tape. they secured the area. and i knew something was wrong...
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taser. >> reporter: he contradicts the claim scott tried to grab the stun gun. >> did you ever see mr. scott take the taser away from the police officer? ever have control of the taser? >> no, no that never happened. >> reporter: in the video, after scott goes down slager appears to drop an object near his body. >> on the video you see officer slager at one point walk back and pick up something off the ground. did you notice that? >> yes, i noticed. >> what was it? >> i can't say it was a taser, but -- i don't know. >> reporter: following the shooting police wrote in an incident report they continued to perform first aid and cpr until e.m.s. arrived. santana says from what he saw, that's just not true. >> did you see anyone perform cpr? >> i didn't see any cpr. >> breathe into his mouth? >> no. >> compress his chest? >> no. >> try to revive him? >> nothing like that. >> reporter: santana says he waited a few minutes before telling slager and another officer at the scene he had recorded everything on his cell phone. >> did he attempt to say anything to you, look at you? >> he look at me. >> r
taser. >> reporter: he contradicts the claim scott tried to grab the stun gun. >> did you ever see mr. scott take the taser away from the police officer? ever have control of the taser? >> no, no that never happened. >> reporter: in the video, after scott goes down slager appears to drop an object near his body. >> on the video you see officer slager at one point walk back and pick up something off the ground. did you notice that? >> yes, i noticed. >>...
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mr. scott. mr. scott no. mr. widen. mr. wyden no. mr. schumer aye. miss stabenow. miss stabenow aye. miss cantwell no. mr. nelson. >> mr. nelson aye. mr. menendez aye. mr. carper no. mr. cardin. mr. cardin aye. mr. brown. mr. brown aye. mr. bennett. mr. bennett aye. mr. casey. mr. casey aye. mr. warner. mr. warner no. mr. chairman? >> no. >> the chairman votes no. mr. burr. mr. burr no. >> the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, the final tally is eight ayes, 18 nays. >> the amendment is not agreed to. >> mr. chairman. >> senator brown. >> i'm down to my last two amendments, mr. chairman, you'll be glad to know. beyond that i'm not responsible for the lateness of the evening. the first amendment is number 52. first amendment's number 52. >> okay. >> and i'm not committed to doing them consecutively. senator cardin has some amendments -- i'll start with 52. this amendment says that congress should identify by a vote in finance and ways and means that an agreement has met the negotiating objectives as spelled out in fast track. certification occurs within 90 days of
mr. scott. mr. scott no. mr. widen. mr. wyden no. mr. schumer aye. miss stabenow. miss stabenow aye. miss cantwell no. mr. nelson. >> mr. nelson aye. mr. menendez aye. mr. carper no. mr. cardin. mr. cardin aye. mr. brown. mr. brown aye. mr. bennett. mr. bennett aye. mr. casey. mr. casey aye. mr. warner. mr. warner no. mr. chairman? >> no. >> the chairman votes no. mr. burr. mr. burr no. >> the clerk will report. >> mr. chairman, the final tally is eight ayes, 18...
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mr. scott first of all my condolences of the loss of your brother. i don't know what to say except that tape is beyond disturbing. when you see that, what is your reaction? >> it looks to me like he was shot down like an animal. >> you know i know that they're saying and claiming that your brother grabbed for the taser and that's why he used deadly force. even if that were the case and i think there may be evidence that it's being at least talked about that that's not in fact true but why would you shoot somebody running away from you and posing no threat to nobody nobody whatsoever. i can't understand for the life of me why somebody would do this. >> i couldn't either. >> yeah. let me ask the attorneys here, justin, when something like this happens, you know, a lot of times i've been a person that says don't rush to judgment wait until all the facts are in. but i also know a lot about police training. and under no circumstances on what i see on that video is there any justifiable use of force. so where do you go from here? >> well, at this point in
mr. scott first of all my condolences of the loss of your brother. i don't know what to say except that tape is beyond disturbing. when you see that, what is your reaction? >> it looks to me like he was shot down like an animal. >> you know i know that they're saying and claiming that your brother grabbed for the taser and that's why he used deadly force. even if that were the case and i think there may be evidence that it's being at least talked about that that's not in fact true...
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officer slager fired eight shots, five struck mr. scott, according to the coroner's report. the man who recorded that video, without which there might not be a true accounting of what happened that day met with the parents of michael scott today, for the first time since he turned over his video to the family. joining me now, msnbc natural correspondent, joy reid. joy, i know you've been down there today and you've been talking to the family. one thing that struck me about this is that the initial thought is for a third brake light being out. it was pretty clearly, essentially an investigatory, a pre-contextual stop because he saw this guy and want to search him and see what he was up to. >> yeah, absolutely. and the initial parts of this approximate three-minute video are pretty routine. the third brake light, which i assume would be a minor violation, but it becomes very clear that walter scott did not want to continue the interaction. we're still trying to confirm at what stage he was in purchasing that car. so he clearly did not want to continue the interaction. but there
officer slager fired eight shots, five struck mr. scott, according to the coroner's report. the man who recorded that video, without which there might not be a true accounting of what happened that day met with the parents of michael scott today, for the first time since he turned over his video to the family. joining me now, msnbc natural correspondent, joy reid. joy, i know you've been down there today and you've been talking to the family. one thing that struck me about this is that the...
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mr. scott's case shows, videos don't lie. we also urge governor nikki haley to advocate for that law so black man can say, as she likes to say, it is a great day in south carolina. we also urge united states attorney william neatless to not only look at mr. scott's case, but work with the united states department of justice to review and thoroughly investigate the policy and practice of the north charleston police department, the charleston police department and the charleston county sheriff's department especially when it comes to racial shootings and physical nvolved - altercations. body cameras and that thorough review will make it easy for many good law enforcement officers to do their job, lessen the chance that any other black men will be used for target practice as mr. scott was. it will hopefully make ours a safe and more just community and hopefully eliminate the need for press conferences like this one. thank you. that's our statement. >> questions. >> you hear there from the south carolina chapter of the naacp, the
mr. scott's case shows, videos don't lie. we also urge governor nikki haley to advocate for that law so black man can say, as she likes to say, it is a great day in south carolina. we also urge united states attorney william neatless to not only look at mr. scott's case, but work with the united states department of justice to review and thoroughly investigate the policy and practice of the north charleston police department, the charleston police department and the charleston county sheriff's...
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mr. scott. mr. scott votes aye. mr. gallego. mr. gallego votes no. mr. brooks. mr. brooks votes aye. mr. takei. mr. takei votes no. mr. nugent. mr. nugent votes aye. ms. gramt. ms. graham votes aye. mr. ashford. mr. ashford votes aye. mr. bridenstein votes aye. mr. molton. mr. molton votes no. dr. wenstrop. dr. wenstrop votes ayes. mr. agular votes no. mrs. wolorsky votes aye. mr. burn. mr. burn votes aye. mr. graves votes aye. mr. zinci votes aye. ms. stefanic votes aye. ms. mcsally votes aye. mr. knight. mr. knight votes aye. mr. mcarthur. mr. mcarthur votes aye. mr. russell. mr. russell votes aye. mr. turner. >> the clerk will report the tally. >> mr. chairman there were 35 aye votes, 27 no votes. >> and the amendment is adopted. next is a roll call vote on amendment number 6 by miss songas regarding the sage grouse. the clerk will call the roll. >> chairman thornberry. >> no. >> chairman thornberry votes no. mr. smith. mr. smith votes aye. mr. jones. mr. jones votes no. miss sanchez. >> ayes. >> miss sanchez votes aye. mr. forbes. mr. forbes. mr. brady votes aye
mr. scott. mr. scott votes aye. mr. gallego. mr. gallego votes no. mr. brooks. mr. brooks votes aye. mr. takei. mr. takei votes no. mr. nugent. mr. nugent votes aye. ms. gramt. ms. graham votes aye. mr. ashford. mr. ashford votes aye. mr. bridenstein votes aye. mr. molton. mr. molton votes no. dr. wenstrop. dr. wenstrop votes ayes. mr. agular votes no. mrs. wolorsky votes aye. mr. burn. mr. burn votes aye. mr. graves votes aye. mr. zinci votes aye. ms. stefanic votes aye. ms. mcsally votes aye....
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and he's handcuffed mr. scott.w runs back to the place of the initial confrontation where presumably the taser may be if that is what flew off the back of his right hip. he leans down to pick something up. obviously this video is not perfect. it is as good as it gets and many people have been very thankful for it because but for this video, this may not have been as obvious a story joey, what reason might an officer have to leave a handcuffed man who's injured, unattended to go back to the site of the initial spot of the shooting? what might be a legitimate reason for that? >> well, unfortunately in this particular instance, it does not appear, based upon my visual observation of the video, that any reason proffered here would be legitimate. why? because as we roll forward, apparently whatever that officer picked up at the location for which he left the man there, mr. scott. apparently dead at that point with his hands behind his back -- >> or dying, dead or dying. >> he puts what looks like a gun -- don't know, bu
and he's handcuffed mr. scott.w runs back to the place of the initial confrontation where presumably the taser may be if that is what flew off the back of his right hip. he leans down to pick something up. obviously this video is not perfect. it is as good as it gets and many people have been very thankful for it because but for this video, this may not have been as obvious a story joey, what reason might an officer have to leave a handcuffed man who's injured, unattended to go back to the site...