mr. scott leon who conducted the investigation. as far as we're concerned, we do not believe that mr. sinitsyn is eligible. at best, he padded the numbers. >> let's go backers with the the points you raised. -- backwards with the points you raised. with the transponder, is there evidence that it occurred as a drop-off, or when someone has gone through the gate and is picking up a passenger? >> the strength -- the transponder will show whether he did that. >> i understand that. so you could be at the airport and have it be recognized by a transponder, but you could be there because you're dropping someone off. i have a problem with that and maybe we will get to that later. does he operate his own vehicle? he owns some vehicle, or it isn't an owned by -- it's something owned mby luxor? >> i don't know what their current relationship is. >> it seems that it would be a violation by luxor. >> if the waybills are accurate, that would be true. >> either the appellant is fabricating or luxor is fabricating, but it could also be a third person fabricating. >> i have not reviewed a third person