mr. scovell. some people have the opinion that when these kinds are made, because they made to aim that they don't have to be made to. in other words, a fact somewhere some oral secret cut and not affect programs for kids like me when i was growing up in special ed. so i'm just wondering, tell me about that. this is something mandated or with? >> our programs are focused on the most needy. in an environment where we've fallen behind the world, 16th in terms of college graduates. >> where 25th and 17th by 15-year-olds when you look at the direct investment education and how that impacts gdp and employment, the quality of education is clear that investment education is critical. we have no choice. >> my question is again going back, is there some way we do have sequestration under the circumstances that she could avoid the cut in these areas. i want to know because the implication is that the administration is trying to zero in on things that get the headlines or whatever. i'm trying to figure out h