mr. scully: how so? mr. hadley: well, by 1975, the cia, which has for most of its existence been trying really hard to avoid permanent congressional investigation of its activities finds itself under investigation by two different committees and the two houses of congress, the church committee and the senate and the house of representatives, that really turn out a lot of the cia's, what we might call, dirty laundry. there is a cia report that was called the family jewels that basically was a collection of illegal or at least questionable cia activities that had gone on from 1959 until 1972. because therely is a greater willingness on the part of the press to challenge the cia. the entire thing starts because seymour hersh in december 1974 publishes a story that the cia has a massive domestic surveillance campaign going on in the united states, which is in direct contravention of the agency's charter. fromthey are prohibited operating within the confines of the united states. mr. scully: a couple weeks ago, w

mr. scully: stephen hadley, a graduate of -- and a doctoral candidate. let's talk about times like these good the press and the cia abroad. in researching this, what did you learn? mr. hadley: well, what i really learned is that the cia and the press had a pretty at times contentious and very, very multi-varied relationship between the two of them and it was really founded early on in the common understanding of the cold war struggle that the united states is facing this new threat after world war ii and the soviet union. and in the early days, there was a really strong sense that they had to work together