sestanovich -- mr. fish: i will stir.on't think this is consistent with cooperation with the united states. i see his point. at the same time i don't see a lot of cooperation with russia going on at all. there is not much i can see. i don't think there is any word to go in terms -- anywhere to go in terms of relations. i don't see how much cooperation is going on. should the united states be concerned with democracy in russia? absolutely. i would say the idea of promoting democracy in russia is a turkey. this is not something the russians want. it is great to promote democracy people that like democracy. if they need a little help, great. help the people when 20% of people want help is not a good idea. does russia need an american-style democracy? they don't seem to want it, so my answer is no. i think they may want eventually something more that profoundly disappointed by the turn in russia. ever since putin came into the office. my last book was about this. don't thinktime i democracy promotion is something we should be

mr. sestanovich, the leader after trump is more unpopular in the world as putin. i was surprised if you look at the far right in europe, which seems to be somewhat of an inspiring figure. i was wondering where do the votes come from. couldn't putin and trump, a basket of implorables from the appeal of this type of finish? >> please. we have four minutes. >> to richard's question, is this about putin's political skills, popularity or russian culture? i think both. putin's skills is so in tune with what people actually want whether they want another leader. very unappealing to people. his personal style and policies. he is the antigorbachev. he was popular with us and at home. putin is the op cyst. i think he knows which buttons to press. he feels it himself. he's a typical russian when it comes to political views. that's a recipe for success. of course he's very skilled politically no doubt about it. in terms of the question about putin's what you call the purge of his administration, starting off as chief of staff who has been dismissed, anybody on the informal fo