mr. shafer. the lawyer's argument was that everything mr. afer did was based on legal advice provided by trump lawyers. quote, every action by mr. shafer as a presidential elector nominee or contingent elector -- that's what they're calling the fake electors, contingent electors. every action was specifically undertaken in conformity with and reliance upon and repeated detailed advice of legal counsel. in it mr. kaufman tells david shafer it is imperative mr. shafer carry out that fake elector meeting. quote, david, i'm reconfirming the importance and our collective advice that our slate of delegates -- again, the fake electors -- they meet and cast their ballots for president trump. i believe this is still the most conservative course of action. that's in case you missed it team trump offering its collective advice the fake electors meet and cast their ballots for donald trump on december 14th, and the lawyers add if the fake electors plot was somehow used in nefarious fashion to i don't know try and steal an election, well then mr. shafer h