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mr. shapiro and mrs. shapiro, i think that she would get a failing grade. >> just? >> at the pleasure to be here today and to see you in person. as you know, one of the issues that we are concerned about is the inadequate congressional oversight. do you think that with senator wyden going over to senator baucus his feet, do you think that anything will change? >> there is always hope and change. can he rally some support? well, it takes more than one. i also think that the change -- where would really come from, it is getting these issues into the public arena. the create public pressure not only on senator wyden, but on others as well. they are actually starting to get it out there. and that is one of the motivations for me to write this book. why did they end up with this act? well, it's out in the committee for six years. it was only after 60 minutes did this embarrassing exposÉ that they said, you know, they're actually starting to get out there. regrettably they ended up dialing this back a little bit and they certainly did. and that is unfortunate. the transpa

unrest with emerick's abroad foreign affairs adviser for the french national front thanks so much mr shapiro for joining us here aren't international discuss the situation in kiev and around it so now let's talk about the recent developments and other western governments summoning their ambassadors what do you think is the mass it's that they're trying to say and here. i think it's a very dangerous situation that's happening now in ukraine because the u.s. and european union interfere into ukrainian affairs and i think it's a very dangerous position because it could create very bad division of a country and there is a risk of civil war which is not the case no because we are talking about. most of our in of a country. which is quite stable. but there are some problems so what i think is. from western countries is then we could it could worsen the situation inside ukraine and the same time worsen the relationship between russia and the western world well you know as we speak there is an economic forum taking place in switzerland in davos and in fact what happened there are police has detained

mr. shapiro you should get a failing grade. the. >> one of the issues we are very concerned about with congressional oversight when do you think with winding going to the box is see will anything change? >> there is always held. -- hope. can he rally to support? it takes more than one. i also think that the change where it to freely comes from is get t. these issues in to the public every nestle it creates public pressure on others that they start to get it out there. that is one of the motivations for be to write this book. the stock act was only after "60 minutes" this embarrassing expos say they start to get it out there regrettably they brought the stock back a little bit that is unfortunate but transparency is a great disinfectant. these issues need to get into the public arena. i am motivated to bring these did have the highest level for no other reason they and a small percentage of people who would not appreciate the 310 million people would have a real appreciation and. perhaps there are disinterested observers but to

mr. shapiro, who do you represent in that association? >> guest: we have over 2,000 u.s. technology companies. everyone who's involved in innovation and has electricity going through it. or. >> host: and what are some of the issues that you're concerned about? >> guest: well, we for example on the issues you would expect the tech industry. we are focused laser-like on innovation. we want to make sure innovation is a national strategy and american companies can keep introducing the neatest products to the world. you know, we dominate in so many areas. we have a lot of foreign multi-nationals, it's a global phenomenon be of innovation, but the u.s. is the world leader, and we want to keep it that way which requires best immigration policies, the best and the brightest, it requires additional spectrum, it also requires a rational patent policy. you can invent things, but you're not being sued all the time. and it requires free trade. >> host: i also want to talk about an issue that the fcc is currently hashing out, and that's a consumer issue. the unlocking of cell phones. d

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