mr. shapley? >> generally any other investigation, if we have probable cause and we believe there's evidence in that location that could help prove our violations, we would executed that search warrant. >> so it was an unusual action. >> yes, congress woman. >> thank you. is it fair to conclude that this pattern of atypical and bewildering actions taken by the district attorney's office happen over the course of the entire investigation and not just one or two occurrences? >> that's correct. it was the pattern that drove me to come forward. that deviation from a normal process. >> if your opinion, did these odd atypical and bewilders actions bolster or harm the investigation? >> i believe they hurt the investigation. >> to our chairman. i would say that there's something rotten in the state of delaware. what has happened here with hunter biden would not have happened to other americans. this is totally unfair and i think it's very important that we get to the bottom of this investigation and find

mr. shapley and mr. ziegler, you both testified about the fact that you've been subject to criticism, ridicule, public disclosure, perhaps menacing comments, because you come forward. is that correct? >> menacing comments? yes, sir. >> and you too, mr. ziegler. that must be a terrible feeling. and whoever does not, i think you would probably both agree, is doing it in service to you individually. you are simply doing your duty as you see the light. fair enough? >> yes. >> mr. ziegler. >> i am doing my duty. >> can you imagine how the district attorney in fulton county, georgia, must feel are the district attorney in manhattan must feel or the special counsel of the department of justice, mr. smith, must feel, when the very subject of an indictment or pending indictment takes to public rally and ridicules them by name, disparages them by name, characterizes them by name, putting them and their families at the same risk you're experiencing. it is said it's wrong for these anonymous people to criticize you,

mr. shapley mr. zigler were bornto move faster let me make a statement to begin luscious clarify for america republicans are only interested in hunter biden's deceptions regarding his irs confirmed receipt of the $17.3 million shady sources in ukraine and romania and china while his father was vice president because hunter biden had nothing to sell. he had no product, no service, no skill all hunter biden had to sell was corrupted access to his father, the big guy. how dear congressman higgins called the president of the united states may say and inaugurated president of the nine sites i would call him the big guy let's go, december 30, 2020 this20 investigator shapley and zigler irs criminal investigation team had a 12 hour long meeting with u.s. etattorney's office in delawareo prosecution team wolf and weiss were in attendance shapley shares an irs plan interview, biden associate rob walker will object to the plan to the dismay of those in the room. but, she said we do not want to ask about the bi

mr. shapley. yes or no. do you know the rate at which black taxpayers are audited as compared to taxpayers that are not black? >> no, i don't know. >> the answer is black tax pay ires are audited 2. 9 to 4.7 times the rate of nonblack taxpayers. another question for you, sir. yes or no. will this hearing help alleviate the racial disparity in the rates of the irs audits? >> that's not the topic -- >> no. >> will the yield? >> i'll yield the balance of my time to the ranking member. >> thank you kindly and for your excellent questioning and statement there. the chairman of the judiciary committee when he was here invited us to believe that the u.s. attorney for delaware had changed his tune or changed his story. but when you look at the letters he sent, he didn't change his tune at all. he said the same thing every time and expanded the answer to be perfectly clear. in his june 7 letter, he says "i have been granted ultimate authority over this matter including responsibility for deciding where, when and whet

mr. shapley and mr. ziegler, if you could each maybe 20 seconds or less summarize what data each of you find when you criminally investigated hunter and joe biden particularly as it relates to china? specifically related to china there's hudson west free, those are the three entities of the transcript. >> i would echo the same thing that's in myan transcript. >> so there's a chinese billionaire and he's tied to the ccp intelligence gathering agency and his company is cfc. what is the connection between hunter biden and csc? >> i'm going to have to stick to the confines of my testimony, but what i can tell you is that there may be some documents that are responsive to that and i can turn those over to the house ways and means committee. he received more than $8 million including $100,000 made from $664,000 from state energy as you mentioned. another chinese company, and a $325,000 capital contribution made on hunters behest a chinese equity investment fund. were you shocked to find the president's son rec

mr. shapley, under u.s. stacks law, taxes owed on all income received from legal service sources, right? >> yes. >> hypothetically, if a person subject to u.s. taxes receives 1 million dollars for serving oil company, those taxes on that 1 million, and what is 38%? correct? >> through u.s. taxpayers, yes. >> to declare the receipt of such income violate u.s. tax bill, correct? >> yes, it would. >> to paying the tax own in a timely -- violates the tax, code correct? >> yes, it does. >> and the tax code has criminal and civil penalties for violations, correct? >> that is correct. >> in a hypothetically, a person received 1 million dollar payment, and it conveys 10% of that amount to another person, that person making that payment may have to pay a gift tax on that amount, correct? >> if they face the gift, yes. conversely, the person receiving the money has to pay income tax on them, as well correct. >> on the gift portion, -- >> they would have to report the gift on their tax returns. i don't believe the taxe

mr. shapley, mr.zeigler, if you could each just quickly, 20 seconds or, less summarize what did each of you -- when you criminally investigated hunter and joe biden, as it relates to china. >> so, specifically related to china. there is the cfc, had sunwest three, state energy hk, yeah, those are, i believe they're the three entities and my transcript. >> i would echo the same thing in my transcript. >> and there is, -- a chinese billionaire. he's tied to intelligence gathering agencies. his company is the cfc. cfc c, c e f c. what is the connection between hunter biden and cfc. >> i'm going to have to stick to the confines of my testimony. what i can tell you is that there may be some documents that are responsive to that i can turn those over to the means committee. >> they would vote to get those released. >> yes, we would love to get those then. and i see that hunter biden received more than $8 million in foreign payments including $100,000 from cfc directly. $664,000 from state energy hk as you m

mr. shapley mr. ziegler very clear we will see what this judge does i don't think this stunt at least if reporting stunt tried yesterday i don't think that is going to help chances of this going forward we have to wait and see what the judge does. maria: great point that you make that we didn't have the whistleblower testimony we may not have had the bank records as well. will the judge and an what their looking at with regards to hunter biden? i have bn asking since this happened how judge doj prosecute tax not wade on income not a gift where it came from. >> that was reason chairman smith sen testimony, transcripts to the court so court would have that could examine that filed amicus what they are trying if you can believe what is reported about folks in biden team trying to get that withdrawn that is trying to keep from the court, again, that is pretty valuable everyone saw testimony last week how credibly they were fbi ask was deposed by committee a week ago monday confirmed so many things that m

mr. shapley want to share. >> agent shapley could not sleep at night if he didn't come forward tell about of this case. and as you know october 7, 2022 when u.s. owner weiss told him and other executives from fbi the irs, that he was not the deciding person on when charge were to be brought against hunter biden was red line meeting, he felt he would never live with himself if he didn't come forward after that so you are go you and american public are going to hear him, and lying agent from irs testify today, about the faction surrounding that cross-examined by democrats and republicans. but the american public will weigh his credibility i think believable, credit i believe. >> what kind of pressure is he favorable mark i know that there is an effort to try to quiet this down, i mean, in the middle on the day that -- a reporter was testifying about what happened with fbi and twitter, they showed up at his house, from the irs, that is matt taibbi what pressure p has mr. shapely been faced with isolated at irs a supervisor in elite squad intbl agents really good at what they do 12 agents, bu

mr. shapley, they knew that would be utterly ridiculous.y focused on donald trump and it was disgusting. no talk about the money that hunter biden, jim biden and joe biden were taking from foreign countries and didn't acknowledge the fact there was international pay for play scheme going on with the biden family. they only want to focus on donald trump and i think it is indicative of what is going on with jack smith and merrick garland right now, it is funny these two whistleblowers come forward today and all of a sudden there is a new indictment with donald trump going on. there are serious problems at the department of justice and it will take house republicans to get to the bottom of it. >> laura: one moment jamie raskin was trying to argue that hunter biden actually received -- i was howling when i watched this, actually received tougher treatment from the irs. i think we have the sound bite. >> the fact hunter biden faced a four-year criminal probe involving dozens of agents and prosecutors from irs, fbi, u.s. attorney office, doj tax

mr. shapley says no, no, are no, no. they did agree. this. >> it seems to me that a lot of your testimony has been about the problem of prosecutorial discretion and the traditional tug-of-war between investigators and prosecutors who are more attune to the riggers of the courtroom. >> it wasn't just investigators that agreed with these charges. in exhibit 2 in my testimony, it clearly shows prosecution recommendation report where it says right in the document that the assistant united states attorneys and department of justice tax division agreed with those recommended charges. >> ainsley: so if they agreed, what happened? >> well, the 2014 and 2015 charges, including the felony for the 2014 burisma income being hidden and not paid or not reported, the fraudulent returns, those had to be approved bye the d.c. u.s. attorney unless the doj tax division gave its approval and doj tax has been silent throughout. when the d.c. u.s. attorney rejected them weiss had nowhere to charge them. that's why he said i'm going to let the statute of limi

mr. shapley, one of the irs whistle-blowers was in. mr. shapley said that mr. weiss said that he tried to bring charges in washington d.c. but was denied. however, the attorney general of the united states, merrick garland said that mr. weiss, the delaware u.s. attorney has complete authority and there's no one above him. so there's five other people in that meeting. they need to come in. we need to ask them face-to-face and get down. we're going to continue, martha, to follow the facts and see where they lead. that's what we've done the last several weeks in this investigation. it's been quite unbelievable of the stuff that we've been uncovering. >> martha: these investigations have been fruitful to say the least in the last several weeks. it's interesting. a lot of people push back on jamie comer saying he didn't have the goods and he kept insisting that he did. now we have seen the 1023 that is a confidential human source that suggests a bribery happened between the burisma ceo about two members of the biden family. so there's a lot to dig into they're and c

mr. shapley's boss. he has basically agreed with mre mr. ley put it in an email and sent it to his boss. those are the key people we want to talk to in addition to the sol talked about in your first segment assistant u.s. attorney leslie wolf, other folks we need to speak to. we are working on making that happen as we speak. >> laura: all right. congressman. thank you. and now it's tonight's profile in courage. meet texas congressman greg zay sore, a new member of the squad and yesterday he did what was now thought to be physically impossible. he ate breakfast and dinner but he skipped lunch. holding his own thirst and hunger strike. he claims he is doing so because texas just passed a law regarding water breaks for construction workers. of course, that was a lie. it merely was a law that keeps local jurisdictions from going beyond state and federal osha safety requirements that are already in effect but don't let that distract you from his remarkable sacrifice. here he is moments before embarking on this perilous journey the hunger must hav

mr. shapley. >> thank you for inviting me to testify here today. i want to thank every member and staff are on both sides of the aisle who -- for the work that you do to represent your constituents and hold government accountable. my name is gary shapley. i have worked for the irs for 14 years. i risen to become a senior leader and currently supervised 12 elite agents and the financial crimes unit. i have worked directly with the multiple districts and have supervised or investigated cases and more than a dozen offices across the country. i have executed search warrants and more than a dozen countries. i've investigated and managed some of the largest cases, recovering more than $3.5 billion for the united states taxpayer. we believe in the rule of law, and that applies to everyone. there should not be a two track justice system depending on who you are and who you're connected to. yet in this case, there was. i am here to tell you that the department of justice handling the hunter biden tax investigation was very different from any other case in m

mr. shapley was promoted to supervisory special agent of the elite etf seat group in 2018. he also served as the assistant special assistant in charge of both the new york field office and chicago field office. i want to thank again both gentlemen for their willingness to come forward and share their testimony today for the members of this committee and for the american people. pursuant to committee rule nine g, the witnesses will please stand and raise the right hand. do you solemnly swear or affirm the testimony you are about to give is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you god? >> i do. >> i stepped forward, i believe that i am risking my career, my reputation, and my casework outside of investigation we are here to discuss. i, came to forward which were multiple times blowing the whistle in the internal revenue service. at the internal revenue service. no one should be above the law, regardless of your political investigation. i help viewed my role today in providing the facts as i best interest in the. to allow congress and the menstruation

mr. shapley and ziegler laid out all the disturbing facts. >> as the special agent on this case, i thought felony charges were well-supported in early august of 2022, federal prosecutors from the department of justice tax division drafted a 99-page memorandum. they were recommending for approval felony and misdemeanor charges. that did not happen here and i am not sure why. >> laura: well, we all know why, to protect the president. it's as clear as day that someone higher up in the doj stepped in for the biden assist and that the u.s. attorney in delaware did not have the final say in this matter. now, the few times that the democrats tried to lay a glove on the whistleblowers ended in epic fail when one goofy congressman tried to dismiss the question of political timing but couldn't even get his exhibits right. >> you said at page 23 and i remember there were always times where we were always on an impending election cycle. >> i don't see where you are referenced it in my transcript, you know. >> page 33. you were talking about how the election cycle is delaying decisions. >> i'm sorry, s

mr. shapley had to say the justice department led by merrick garland have really slow walk to the hunter. connection to his father, the president. >> think they have ever they have let felonies expire critically felonies i would have arisen in 2014 and 15 when the burisma stuff was really going. one of the line of questioning both i and sherman jim jordan and i head to the whistleblowers this week was about the conduct of u.s. att attorney weiss and merrick garland. there is a very white gulf between what they are saying to the congress and to the american people. we are either looking at the most incompetent u.s. attorney that has ever done his job or not done his job or it's the biggest cover-up. i think both of those there is deep concern amongst congress who is really calling the shots here? if you are taking charges to washington, d.c. two filing of hunter or to the central district of california for the other charges were in your being blockaded merrick garland has said repeatedly u.s. attorney weiss would had unfettered ability to bring whatever charges he wanted too. but that isn'

mr. shapley about a number of times you felt like that wasn't happening.st of all, tell us who was leslie wolf? what role did she have in overseeing what you could pursue, what you couldn't pursue and where did you feel like maybe you guys were not on the same page. >> so leslie wolf was one of the four assigned so she was an assistant u.s. attorney for the district of delaware. she was one of the -- one of the attorneys assigned to the investigation. and the second part of your question what one was the first time that we weren't really that our first really big disagreement would have been related to the storage unit, the search warrant related to the storage unit. when she told or when i found out that she told defense counsel that we knew about the storage unit and that the records request included that, i just knew that we weren't -- it just -- it was kind of like a shot to the gut and that we weren't -- we didn't have a seat at the table. that really was a defining moment for me that said that things aren't going or aren't following the proper proced

mr. shapley with regard to a meeting he wasn't present on october 22nd. saying mr. weiss said certain things, it is shapley versus david weiss and whose word. >> kayleigh: we laid out and can put it back on the wall. the assistant da, that is what gary shapley was alleging, that doesn't mean it doesn't back it up. >> not saying it doesn't back up entirety, key part of this testimony is what was said or wasn't said by mr. weiss and mr x was not in the room and can't say who is right. it comes down to he said, he said, in that room on october 22nd, largely -- >> kayleigh: he is he said, they said, somebody else signed off on gary shapley's notes, it is they said versus he said. >> mr. x was not one and not present. >> kayleigh: backs up storyline, no search warrant, he backs up the story line. >> harris: you have fbi employee doing this, too. if you tipped the transition team, there is paper trail and i asked congressman fallon about this yesterday and they will come forward with additional facts, fallon will be doing some questioning today on the committee. they are g

mr. shapley or the new whistle-blower either one of them wanted this job on their plate. they both have been very brave and coming forward. thank you very much. good to see you. >> thank you. >> so democratic presidential candidate robert f. kennedy will join me after his fiery appearance on the hill where democrats tried to use the hearing on government censorship to keep him from talking. irony, right? >> watch the time for all the witnesses. >> if you want to cut him off and censor him more, you're welcome to do it. >> that's not my job. >> i know many of the people that wrote this letter. there's not a single person that signs this letter believes it. you tried to associate me with the replacement theory. >> it's the witnesses time. don't censor him. >> allow me to answer my question. >> i'd like about 10 seconds back -- >> the time -- >> you're slandering me incorrectly -- >> the time belongs -- >> saying i'm dishonest. n't kn'e getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes i

and that was the motivation of gary shapley and mr. ziegler th they came forward because they saw unequal application of the lae forww. want that's why we want to talktoes to these folks, get all the facts, and thee fon forward from there. >> and, chairman smith, i'll ask you lastly here, when the with the irs whistleblowerse that we've heard from and those that are upcoming, irvt seemslie that they're going to contradict prosecutor wise aney are gd his contention thate he never said these things, that he didn't have the abilit o to bring cases in other jurisdictions. ifns. there's five or six, seven, maybe more whistleblowers versus, that one person, who are you going to believe beliy, sean. one important point is, is that the two irs whistleblowers that came forward that testified, and, jamie commerce committee, their stories have stayed the same. ve stayed ththe stories that hao stayed the same are those of prosecutor and also of the biden family. that is the issue we bid. blowe have really credible whistleblowers come forward and t

less than a month later gary shapley knight met with mr. pretty stated he agreed with us regarding the 2014 at 2015 tax year up misdemeanor and felony charges. this could somehow affect the later year misdemeanor felony charges he conveyed were stronger. despite these facts the plea deal that's being discussed occurred to this day i do not have a reason why that occurred. but from myy perspective this might not have been problematic had the investigation be handled in the ordinary course. fast, as i previously testified and is contained in my written testimony i've outlined for use in instances in which a signed prosecutors did not appear to follow the normal investigative process. slow walk the investigation put in place on necessary approvals and roadblocks and efficiently investigate the case. a number of times were not able to comment the facts. i'm happy to respond to questions concerning these instances. six, the u.s. attorneys in delaware he has a similar power to that of a special counsel in this case a free reign to do as needed. i

his attorneys telling the washington post, quote shapley was not a source for you in the story or any other story, you are now free to correct mrr shapley's good name of those false retaliatory charges. she to react and expand on that is fox and friends weekend cohost pete hegseth. so pete shapley's lawyers are aggressive and they need to be correct? >> absolutely. >> brian: and they're daring the attorneys to step forward now. >> for sure. and this is what the other side does every time, is if you can't deal or refute with what the whistleblower has said, they can't, this is a credible guy shapley on the screen right there coming forward saying i know these things then you have to smear him, smear him in other ways to make him look like he's not credible. in this particular case there's an easy answer to this brian. the washington post can just come out and say now that they -- now that his attorneys have said this and say shapley's not our source, so feel free to let the world know that so that democracy does not die in darkness. we'll see if the washington post is willing to do that because they're happy to drip out a few st

mr. shapley and mr. x's testimony.ng investigation, dragging your feet, letting statute of limitation expire, there is testimony of two brave whistleblowers, you have evidence from the fbi itself that backs up their story. >> carley: we'll be listening to testimony from the two whistleblowers today. republicans can subpoena anybody. will we get to a point where the oversight committee subpoenas hunter or joe biden himself? >> i think that is possible, i lean on the chairman. they know what they are doing. both judiciary and oversight have done more in six months than these law enforcement agencies have done in six years. i think we are in a good spot continuing to let the facts dictate next steps. we will follow their lead, we are providing transparency for the american people. >> todd: whistleblower x is calling on an investigation. don't we have a special counsel somewhere operating in complete silence investigating joe biden,ie, other cases? seems like jack smith is bringing indictment after indictment after indictm

mr. shapley and mr.gler, and it's been backed i, as you know, david, but an fbi agent who was deposed by the oversight committee as well. i think we just keep doing our job, and if we have to go to the impeachment inquiry phase, we're going go there. david: well, on monday, i believe behind closed doors, you're going to hear from the former business partner of hunter, devon archer. do you suspect that he may have a smoking gun of some kind? >> i don't know, but that's one more step, one more part of our -- look, we're supposed to do our duty, our constitutional duty. if, in fact, that leads to an impeachment inquiry, so be e it. but let's do our job so that we can figure out what exactly happened, how that may impact the appropriations process with money going to these various agencieses, what it may mean for possible legislation. that's our job, our duty to the constitution. we're going to do all that. mr. archer a's scheduled, now, he's been scheduled multiple times before, and somehow those didn't wor

mr. shapley's claims have been corroborated by other whistleblowers as well.his credibility is certainly been bolstered by other people who have similar information about what went on here. in terms of the legality here, it is a legal for retaliation against someone who is a whistleblower who has protections from congress for whoever they are working for 2 lash out against them. it seems like a tactic that the hunter biden lawyers are using in a roundabout way to go after someone who is legally protected as a whistleblower through that process. it's not that your client is working with publicans. there working with democrats and the sentence to get to the bottom here. >> that's right. i miscarried shapley's assistance from the very beginning that he is not afraid to be cross-examined by both sides. he insisted this be a bipartisan process.that's what we've done.even before going to congress he went to the doj inspector general and they have been investigating this for some time before any others went public. you can see the reason they're doing this is just to

mr. shapley, a dedicated irs agent and supervisory special agent for his career, there is no incentive to come forward with a made-up story about this. he was offended by what he saw and broke ranks for someone who was committed to the agency. that's an extraordinary move. >> david, on msnbc they offered this absurd defensive hunter biden. have a look. >>> it's really interesting they are trying to villain eyes him. you are right. he will come off as very sympathetic. not once did i see maybe a go after donald trump minor under the age of 18. his son has basically sailed through the last six years. >> are you kidding me? donald trump's youngest sun was a minor and did not have a laptop from hell and didn't do all of these things. sails through? what kind of perverted perception of that did they come up to say we need to treat him the same? hunter biden created this problem for the biden family, not donald trump's son. what does that have to do with it? >> that's a disgrace. hunter biden should be an irrelevancy. he's a sad and tragic case. i am share his addiction is partly responsible fo

mr. shapley suggested it is not too late for special counsel to look into this deal.t will be next, i believe next wednesday, a judge will decide whether or not to accept the hunter biden sweetheart deal up in delaware. if the judge was watching yesterday, she might have had questions whether or not this was a sweetheart deal, did he wind up with preferential treatment. >> brian: of course he did. >> ainsley: he made more tha $200,000, he got to keep $106,000, you would have to pay 50%. >> brian: 17 million now. james comer coming out with more, there are other shell companies it will be astronomical. joe biden can never tell the american public to pay their taxes again, his family, specifically his son and soon to be the family, it seems, didn't pay a fraction of what they owed. >> steve: of the 17 million, just hunter biden stuff from 2015 and mr. joe ziegler working on the case since 2015. 17 million went to the biden family, the question is and this is what james comer has to do. were any laws broken? did they -- why did they earn the money? did they break any law

mr. shapley, who has said david weiss did not have full authority to charge hunter biden. they totally have this run around could he charge him in california, could he charge him in the district of columbia or was he -- was he confined to just delaware? that's a big question. the whistleblower has far more credibility on this issue. >> julie: had he charged him in washington he would have been charged with a felony not with a slap on the wrist which brings us back to our original point. jason chaffetz. great to see you, love you, buddy. >> thank you. >> julie: rich. >> rich: israel launching its largest military operation in the west bank in two decades. a live report from jerusalem as the conflict enters its second day. >> julie: working remotely is growing in some unexpected jobs. we'll tell you where people are now clicking in. on is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. everyone: woo hoo! ensure with 25 vitamins and minerals. enter the $10,000 nourishing moments giveaway. what do we always say, son

mr. shapley testified to yesterday in front of ways and means a few weeks ago, the fact the oversight committee investigation into the money flow from china, from ukraine, from romania, and there are other countries coming forward, our house investigation matches what the i.r.s. international tax fraud department was investigating. and all of this is matching up. the last thing that is also matching up is that you have political holdovers of political appointees at the department of justice who were obstructing justice so that this matter was never brought to the light of day. last thing, you also have our current secretary of state who led this letter of 51 people in our intelligence community who said that the hunter biden laptop story was russian disinformation and we now know that's a lie. so i think the f.b.i. has nothing to stand on as far as i'm concerned. this form should have been released to the public long ago. >> dana: the f.b.i. statement so we have it on record here saying we have repeatedly explained to congress in correspondence and briefings how critical it is to keep this sour

mr. shapley from the irs that came forward and the d.o.j.them off the case were other whistleblowers have told us about some of the issues and what they face like garrett o'boyle, really get into all the issues in a host of others as well. the main point there is no way republicans in congress are going to be for reauthorizing pfizer in the current form that is due at the end of the calendar year end there is no way were going to do that working opposed to an host of other things as well. stuart: one last one i hope you are watching the show a few minutes ago new york city considering public schools to house migrants during the summer break they say it's a last resort option to manage the search. what do you think about that, using schools to house migrants in new york city because you filled up the hotels and the emergency shelters? >> first you call parents terrorist for showing up at a school board meeting speaking for the kids and i put migrants in their building it makes no sense not to mention what they're doing to hotels, talk about d

mr. shapley he was a certain decade in multiple investigations into financial crimes in the fact that heas taken off the case and they cannot produce it in the guardrails were ignored this is the same pattern that we've seen over and over again they target catholics and go after parents are involved in their child's education, they spy on american citizens without a warrant when people say they don't trust federal law enforcement these are the things that they look at these are exactly the narrative of weaponization of the government against the american citizens. maria: the secret service is get a brief house oversight committee on the cocaine found at the white house two weeks a ago. what are your expectations are? >> i don't know, i think there's fingerprints that they found on the back. i'll say this about the secret service, right now they are cooperating with congress which is a novel concept would you look at the d.o.j. or the fbi. i'm interested to see where this goes. again if it's a tourist, fine then you deal with that. maria: are tourist allowed near the situation room? >> fo

shapley, the whistle. one of the whistleblowers has said that there arthe whe witnes to what mr. weiss said to the effect that he did not have full authority, and they had been stymiedauthor by the u.s. attorney in d.c. and so on. >> let's, you know we keep seeing in the press that mr. weiss was a trum p appointee,over f but he was really a holdover from the previous administrationroinistrat. and, you know, someone deceptable to both democratic senators from delaware. so it's there's no telling what kind of interna therl pressure i he's facing. but i suggest again, that fos nr mr. shapley, a dedicated irs agent, a supervisory special agent for his career, there was no incentives ca to forward wita made up story about this. hewi about was offended by what and he broke ranks for someone who's committed to the agency. r >> that's an extraordinary move . all right, david on msnbc, they offered this absurd of hunter biden. >> have a look. bidey interesting that they're trying to villainize him, because you're right, hvil come off as very sympathetic. >> not once did i sevee media go a

mr. shapley and and others of the investigative team, he says i asked for special counsel status, main justicet give it to me. that is the key distinct. -- distinction. mr. garland says, no, no, no, he had full authority, he could have had special counsel if that's what he really wanted. we've got to find out who's telling the truth. my gut tells me it's the two whistleblowers. maria: all of this leads to many people in the house saying it is time to draw up impeachment articles. are you moving to impeach attorney general merrick garland? >> this is the question for the full conference, but the speaker has been very clear, speaker mccarthy has said if we have to go to an impeachment inquiry, we will, in fact, do that. it sure looks like now based on the evidence that keeps piling up, what senator grassley released this week, what we heard from the whistleblowers and the conflicting statements from the justice d., sure looks like we're moving in that direction at a quick pace, but that ooh's a question for the full conference. we will do what the constitution requires if that's where we need to

mr. shapley and ziegler did a great job. you could see that they had taken the steps to do what they believed was right to tell the story how their investigation had been thwarted and how the department of justice allowed the statute of limitations for serious criminals acts by hunter biden to expire so he couldn't be pursued. because the statute of limitation was out there he could still pay those taxes today. that's what we were dealing with yesterday also is hunter biden has money in his pocket. the biden family has money in their pockets from hunter not having paid taxes. he should pay his taxes. >> bill: joseph ziegler was the surprise witness. we didn't know his name or identity. he was rather unimpeachable. from ohio. he made the statement he is paying his own way to travel to washington, d.c. and back home again as a whistleblower here. this is a segment of his testimony yesterday when he talked about a special counsel that's required. >> it appeared to me based on what i experienced that the u.s. attorney in delawar

mr. shapley yesterday. >> generally, any other investigation, if we have probable cause and we believe there -- help prove our violations, then we would execute that search warrant. >> so, it was an unusual action? >> yes. >> brian: yeah. i would say. so he was unbelievably credible. all right. let's move ahead and let's talk about the special counsel and how they are handling donald trump. let's look at the problem he has got. he has got a problem in new york and georgia and with january 6th. and he has got a problem with the documents. so the special counsel has interviewed dozens of witnesses in the investigations and they don't stop. if you work for trump, touch trump, you were going to sit down and talk about trump. and then the witnesses include trump family members. jared kushner last week come and talk to us ivanka as well. a lot of people think that's overstepping, especially when you compare it to the bidens. >> ainsley: shapley yesterday says the doj limited to the investigators, who was in there in their community could interview the biden family, hunter biden, the fbi tips off h

mr. shapley, one of the irs whistle blow ors said david weiss told the investigative team just a the oppositerges are filed and when they do that. so you've got two different stories -- both can't be right and, again, the credibility seems to be all on the whistleblowers' side. stuart: i just worry about investigation and scandal fatigue. >> yeah. stuart: it is very difficult for viewers to follow who met who and where and who said what and who contradicts that. you can get awfully lost in these weeds. i think our job tomorrow and perhaps yours too is to deliver clarity. i want them to know in simple, understandable terms exactly what happened. can you do it? >> i think we can. and, you know, one thing i've learned is when you have whistleblowerses testifying in front of congress, let them blow the whistle. let them communiques candidate. -- communicate. we've had fbi agents who knock it out of the park because they told their story, and the democrats wound up attacking them not just on what they said, but personally. i think if that happens tomorrow, we'll see, but i think you let these indi

mr. shapley. seems very, very credible. he sure does. >> i watched that interview wese did on "special reportnd a" andn mean, i was blown away by what he said. now, congressman colmer todayrea in the u.s. attorney's office fon, and on r southern districtf new york, they announced charges agains york.t gal luft,n who claims to have provided the fbsti with informationtion on the biden family's business dealings i on n, china.s not he says he's not a republican or a democrat. demod about concernea r a potential president of the united states having such an conflict or perhaps be compromised. so, congressman comer, your reaction to the timing of that indictment? imin >> the timing is always coincidental, according to the democrats at the department of justice. look, here's what i know about go look, he was getting paid like the bidens from cfc. we want to speak with everyone we s who was also on the payroll of cfc, like the bidens and anyone who says we shouldn't take this alleg allegation seriously. this gives the facn t thatt

mr. shapley and ziegler to the court so the court could ex appear inthat as part of this deal. what's been reported about the folks on the biden team trying to get that withdrawn, that's what they were trying to keep from the court. again, that's pretty valuable information. i find their testimony and their story hasn't changed. their testimony has been consistent. the biden white house and the biden justice department keep changing their tune. >> harris: well, this kind of slap on the wrist, as i said, some critics have called it a plea deal comes in the wake of a lot of new information that has been bursting and we're covering every second of it. this is information we didn't have when this deal was originally struck. the testimony from those two i.r.s. whistleblowers, the f.b.i. document where a source says hunter biden coerced millions of dollars out of a ukrainian company ceo. one op-ed really hitting the nail on the head here. it says you would go to prison for what hunter biden did. meaning everybody else except for him. griff jenkins is live outside the courthouse in wi

mr. shapley, you said that warrants were ready as soon as april of 2022 begin searching for records.ut that actions weren't with regard to the warrants. again, joe biden was not the president in april of 2020, was he? >> i'm confused by the line of questioning. we are talking about an election. he didn't have to have the president -- be the president to have the election meddling. >> the question is was he the president in 2020? >> asked and answered. >> the answer is? yes or no. >> no. >> thank you. i go back. >> mr. chairman, may i finish? >> you may answer the question. >> it's clear he was not the president but the election is for the purpose of electing a president and joe biden at the time was the nominee for president of the united states. therefore the election clauses with doj policy took place were in effect in it wasn't until september 4 of 2020 that the department of integrity said that we couldn't take actions on the case and as early as -- >> [inaudible] >> as early as april to june of 2020 the department of justice and delaware u.s. attorney's office was invoking the e

mr. gary shapley?facts. >> really, well, what facts is it not supported by? >> his own admission -- meeting. >> and democrats also point out that disagreements about charging decisions are actually quite common in these types of cases, and that republicans -- or, these two irs whistleblowers actually only had a small slice of the investigation. they are only privy to a part of it. and so democrats, essentially, arguing here that republicans don't know the full picture and are just trying to cherry pick a narrative to fit their narrative, anderson. >> all right, melanie zanona, appreciate. it, unexpected news from ukraine for a third night -- russian rockets are taking aim at the port city of odessa. we will take you there. also, he's been in my since the failed meeting in russia last month, now a new, grainy video surface that appears to show wagner mercenary boss yevgeny prigozhin alive and talking to some of his fighters. the details are ahead. and a witness shares what she saw when u.s. soldier trav

agent gary shapley and whistleblower mr. x publicly identified for first time. republicans look to expose how the justice department's hunter biden investigation was mishandled. manipulated and preferential. >> today is a huge turning point for us because we have two of the most knowledgeable people in america within the i.r.s. who understand international tax laws. we don't know what they did to receive this money. we don't think they paid a penny of taxes on it. and we're concerned that what they did to receive the money pertains to decisions that joe biden made. >> who are you going to believe? the biden/garland justice department that catholics were extremist and censored people or the two whistleblowers whose testimony has not changed and credibility is unimpeachable. >> harris: republicans revealing an f.b.i. agent detailed how he was stonewalled, kept from talking to hunter biden during the investigation. another one was told not to speak to the oversight committee one day before a scheduled deposition. the "new york post" editorial board writes this. yes

great country, the greatest country ever, that's what we focus on, and that's the focus of gary shapley and mr. ziegler. they came forward because they saw unequal application of the law been that's why we want to talk to these folks. get all the facts and move forward from there. >> sean: chairman smith. i'll ask you lastly here. the irs whistle-blowers serverst we've heard from, looks like they are going to contradict prosecutor weiss that he never said these things, that he didn't have the ability to bring cases in other jurisdictions. if this five, six, seven, maybe more whistle-blowers versus that one person, who are you going to believe? >> exactly. one important point is that the two irs whistle-blowers that came forward that testified in jamie comber's committee, their stories have stayed the same. the stories that have not stayed the same are those of prosecutor weiss and also the biden family. that is the issue. we have really credible whistle-blowers come forward and they are all singing from the same tip. >> great job all three of you. the walls are caving in now on the biden syndi

the attorneys saying irs special agent gary shapley and the anonymous mr. runtled because they department like how the investigation was going. shapley's lawyer is starting by along with jonathan turley. first to justice correspondent david spunt, live at the doj. good afternoon, david. >> hi,.

the attorneys saying irs special agent gary shapley and the anonymous mr. x were disgruntled because they department like how the investigation was going. shapley's lawyer is starting by along with jonathan turley. first to justice correspondent david spunt, live at the doj. good afternoon, david. >> hi, trace. good afternoon. two hours and counting until david weiss has to meet this deadline for house republicans to answer questions about the hunter biden probe. i think we can say with confidence he won't meet the deadline. the reason we can say this with confidence, he said so himself in a letter to republican house judiciary chairman jim jordan late last week. i want to read party of it. this is from weiss to jordan. he said -- >> in his letter last friday to jordan, the donald trump appointed u.s. attorney quoted a prior letter from june where he wrote -- clear cheer. >> a few weeks later, trace, how judiciary chairman jim jordan wrote to weiss asking him who told him to sign that letter. jordan doesn't believe that weiss called the shots in the probe. h

shapley. the other has been called mr. x.re told he will reveal his identity publicly for the first time. both of those agents claim the d.o.j. gave hunter biden special treatment. mr. x also says he was not present at the october 2022 meeting where shapley sad u.s. attorney david weiss claims he was not in control of the hunter biden investigation. that's shapley's word against weiss's. weiss has denied it. raymond arroyo, fox news contributor. reaction to all of that. all heading into a big showdown tomorrow. >> you bet. what we're seeing -- it is interesting when you see this news coupled with the story you just report evidence with the d.o.j. targeting donald trump. what we are seeing, sadly, is these government institutions being weaponizeed against a particular opponent or party. i don't care what ideology, democrat, republican, independent. every american should be decrying what we're seeing here. what is coming out of this oversight committee. it is a pattern of the government in this case f.b.i. agents told stand dow