mr. sherwin? >> we are a customer of time warner's metro ethernet service as well as their cable service. we buy a lot of services from time warner and telecom. we buy it wholesale, and we buy almost all of our services from time warner wholesale. i think that may be largely due to the conditions that were placed on the aol/time warner merger by the ftc back when that occurred. our big concern is that that has been very advantageous for us and we think it's been advantageous for time warner. we're hopeful that when this merger occurs, that there's a condition placed that the conditions will continue to be enforced and monitored because it's helpful for us to provide a competitive service in buildings where the bigger providers are. >> thank you. i was thinking when mr. cohen was referring to small businesses, you probably consider yourself not a huge business there, mr. bosworth. >> no, we're not. >> there's a lot of independent contractors that are the focus of this hearing as well. do you want t

mr. sherwin. i actually think his testimony sets forth in a pretty compelling fashion, where there's no need for such a condition in this transaction. he points out he has internet interconnection issues with comcast, time warner, verizon, at&t and a number of other companies. i know that today -- and i'm just not aware of any refusal on the part of comcast to do business with mr. sherwin. i know that today, we have about a hundred commercial agreements with mr. sherwin in a hundred different buildings in america, and that in all of those cases, there is at least one other option that mr. sherwin has to obtain services, and in some of those buildings, there may be three or four other options for him to be able to pursue. so the issue of wholesale unbundling of our network is an issue that was vigorously raised in the nbc universal transaction. one which we vigorously fought in that transaction, and one in which the department of justice and the fcc concluded that the market was sufficiently dynami

mr. sherwin? >> we are a customer of time warner's metro ethernet service as well as their cable service. we buy a lot of services from time warner and telecom. we buy it wholesale, and we buy almost all of our services from time warner wholesale. i think that may be largely due to the conditions that were placed on the aol/time warner merger by the ftc back when that occurred. our big concern is that that has been very advantageous for us and we think it's been advantageous for time warner. we're hopeful that when this merger occurs, that there's a condition placed that the conditions will continue to be enforced and monitored because it's helpful for us to provide a competitive service in buildings where the bigger providers are. >> thank you. i was thinking when mr. cohen was referring to small businesses, you probably consider yourself not a huge business there, mr. bosworth. >> no, we're not. >> there's a lot of independent contractors that are the focus of this hearing as well. do you want t

mr. sherwin has mentioned.nd then, finally, of course, the issue of the internet and making sure that is done in a fair way so it's available to everyone. we're looking forward to getting more information. i know that mr. cohen, mr. minson, your companies filed their -- what is it, 180-page report yesterday, so we will he -- be reviewing that. the committee has raised a number of letters raising concerns about the merger which i will be placing in the record. the hearing record will remain open for one week for any additional submissions and questions from senators. thank you. you can go get some lunch. the aring isourned [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> u.s.s. is making its way toward completion of debate on the 2015 budget proposal. we are joined by eric what some of the hill. what has been the tone of the overall debate so far? >> i think you tend to see some very passionate debate on

mr. sherwin. i actually think his testimony sets forth in a pretty compelling fashion, where there's no need for such a condition in this transaction. he points out he has internet interconnection issues with comcast, time warner, verizon, at&t and a number of other companies. i know that today -- and i'm just not aware of any refusal on the part of comcast to do business with mr. sherwin. i know that today, we have about a hundred commercial agreements with mr. sherwin in a hundred different buildings in america, and that in all of those cases, there is at least one other option that mr. sherwin has to obtain services, and in some of those buildings, there may be three or four other options for him to be able to pursue. so the issue of wholesale unbundling of our network is an issue that was vigorously raised in the nbc universal transaction. one which we vigorously fought in that transaction, and one in which the department of justice and the fcc concluded that the market was sufficiently dynami