mr. shimming and had some february from mr. shin if his words he's in the loop on whaelz so the it don't make any difference being involved this is over the course of the last couple weeks has indeed been part of the overall process and they're aware of it and aware of the differences in the languages and are invited along with mr. minority to go ahead and make their own submissions as to the changes and certainly this is the progress we'll continue over the course felt next month the city attorney's office is part of the package here i just like to add one other thing in regard to one of the things that commissioner hur said with all due respect i am glad that mr. mel stack is here we ought to let the board do this i don't think so we heard mr. mel history of the very unfortunate incident that is going to be characteristic of the way the board of supervisors as a perspective body with they are own actions to ground and their own constituents i say this their own payoffs from interest groups or other things they're not the grou