mr. chairman, could i just to give general shinseki an opportunity to respond to the question -- i didn't i do know whether you had a response on the issue of discrimination -- i didn't know. you may have been, you may have been interrupted without having a response soap -- >> well, i would say that speakers and i want to apologize before my friend from kansas lease. i want to say that i apologize to him. senator moran, my apologies to you for keeping you longer spent you set the precedent and i -- >> you took advantage of it. sorry, general. >> i which is the our approach has been and didn't begin with my arrival that va is a welcoming plaques and we generously have taken care of veterans for many generations now. and i think if you look at the decisions that have been made at least the last five years our effort has been to provide veterans the care and benefits that they've earned without drawing any walls around the statement. >> and i'm not talking about the benefits right now. i'm talking about private employers who may discriminate against veterans for whatever reason. >> i would s