mr. shoukry: in syria? it still seems to be -- unfortunately, it is impacting very dramatically and painfully the syrian population. half of the syrian population or more are currently displaced. but we are still hopefully working on some way to attract all the participants, legitimate presidents -- legitimate participants to a political settlement. charlie: in which assad may play a role? mr. shoukry: we have to see how things develop. we just held an extensive conference with the opposition. we are going to have a further round. these are nationalist people who cannot beach and -- cannot be challenged as being terrorists. hopefully we can reach a point where all the participants recognize that it is in all of their best interests to find a solution that takes into account all of their collective interests. charlie: you have to identify them and then support them. mr. shoukry: of course, you have to do that. charlie: thank you for coming. you have been generous with your time and my questions. thank you. i