mr. siberell. mr. mayorkas, the headlines nowadays about the long lines at tsa i do want to talk about that. we didn't have a briefing and congress committee. i just want your estimate of what is causing that. what is the root cause of lines of fine history areas at chicago o'hare. >> if i can, thank you for the opportunity. when they separate chicago o'hare and the three-hour lines that were experienced about a week ago because quite frankly doubt with error on our part. that was a failure to address with appropriate staff in a very printed bold stare jenny p. chandler traveled. so that wasn't not duration if you will with respect to the agencies, a failure to address. >> we can separate o'hare, but the problems at other airports, let's talk about the problem in totality. >> we would identify three general factors if i may. they have arisen over the course quite some time. number one and very importantly, we have enhanced security measures at our airports in response to an inspector general's report t

mr. justin siberell, and the opening statement by mr. alejandro mayorkas he talked about how isis has done from directing activity to inspiring. i would agree that al qaeda directed so that that was a centralized operation of direct activity. my take on isis is that their method has been to inspire. outside of the caliphate they are inspiring, but what concerns me is the progression has been -- is it not true there are reports that they had a hand in directing the brussels attack? we will call them and external operations unit beginning to direct. they have this external operations unit that is starting to direct attacks. >> i think you pointed out the essential difference and why isil poses a new kind of challenge than al qaeda previously. individuals who had to become a member, vetted by the organization and then or operated in aa clandestine manner secretly in a number of locations around the world isil works on a completely different model. very disciplined military structure. pursue their efforts there. but at the same time they mak

mr. siberell, but there isn't a sense of urgency.and it is right passing legislation but on all three levels but don't believe we're doing well we should be doing to attack other places. we continue to have gaps and as the fbi director told us real serious gaps in intelligence we need to know who the assyrian refugees are and finally perhaps most important we have yet to figure out is a counterterrorism communication and facing a very effective opponent of mine. and when we are asked to look at the isis propaganda on line we see what has to do with violence and extremism but here is our report we got recently, a 52% of nearly 900 propaganda were focused on quality of life, a lonely two% touched on brutality or violence. they are reaching out to alienating the use in the west and elsewhere the think it is increasing so what are we doing that is responding to this increased capability for the urgency? i notice you have talked about the global engagement center at the state department at the department of homeland security and the offic

mr. siberell? want to address this. but can you also talk about how the efforts to recruit people to terrori terrorism, to isil, to boko haram, how the difference that we're seeing between the ability to recruit men and women? i know there's been an increasing effort to use women as suicide bombers, but can you talk a little bit about what we see about who's easier to recruit? >> well, i think for most of the groups, the emphasis continues to be on recruiting young men, but in the case of boko haram, of course, notoriously, they have used girls in suicide bombing operations, which is absolutely despicable. some of those are obviously coerced into that activity. i would just build on something my colleague just noted about the role of women in particular in identifying the seeds of radicalization. women play a critical role in most communities in being close to the people and having an ability to understand whether or not there are influences coming into the community that could lead to a process of radicalization and re

mr. siberell and others i'll ask it to you. in the three conflict zones we're talking about, can you talk a little bit about this mystery which is the attractiveness of a wahhabi-oriented, sunni ideology amidst areas that are often dominated by sufi muslims and the story has to be partially about schools on the ground funded by some of our allies in the middle east. some of it has to do with young men who go to the middle east to get taught in schools, funded by our allies in the middle east. what is the level of seriousness about -- about the countries on the ground in understanding and trying to tackle this problem of radicalization that happens in these wahhabi-funded or salafish-oriented schools either in theater or back in middle east? >> i think it's a real concern on the part of many governments in the region, and we hear that from those governments. as you pointed out, there are likely a variety or number of different vehicles through which these ideas are -- or this ideology, you know, penetrates a society. this is not

mr. siberell, think about because i will come back to in my question, mr. siberell, do you have a quick answer to that. >> with the program, this program enables us and provides us huge leverage of over the visa-wafer program partners to require improvements and strengthening of own processes and therefore makes a border security program, it's very strong. >> again, i'm a supporter, honestly the ranking is kind of obvious. think about it. i will come back to my question. i don't want to take my time of senator's questioning. >> gentlemen, thank you very much for the incredibly difficult work you have and do every day, the service that you render to our country. there were really colossal and consequential intelligence failures in our european allies to allow these to take place. we understand that there are a lot of gaps to collect information about people who traveled to fight with isis in syria, iraq and now even libya. even some of the countries themselves and we now know that belgium has got a lot of problems internally from a federal system divided by l