mr. sibonus, the best nba player of his time, would be cared for. it took four years where eventually he made it to portland where fans got to watch him play and play well. and, mr. president, i cannot find the picture, but back then there was a picture that ensured that oregonians kroos the -- across the state were laughing at their breakfast table because it came out that mr. sibonus and i were strolling along in portland and i am 6 got 4 -- i was six foot four and mr. sibonus was about seven foot four. but it was a wonderful experience for me and it was a chance for me to see what larry weinberg was all about. and he always told me it's a chance for you to learn a little bit more about the world, a chance for you to go to the soviet union -- it was the soviet union at that time -- and see the connection between reform and what our president was trying to do and in terms of sports in terms of bringing people together. and i was so honored that larry weinberg would give me a window into that kind of opportunity and allow me in a really small way as