mr. siegel and mr. lomax, mr. lomax, you've discovered, no surprise, this network of foundations and activists who seem to engage in what we might call and which you've called advocacy science, which i don't think is science at all. you might take a swing at how do we counter this bias that you have discovered, why it is not scientific, and what we can do about it. >> so i've mentioned in my testimony that i live in colorado. i live in denver, which is a major -- >> yah for colorado. >> it is good to see you congressman. i have the great privilege of working alongside and interacting with on a daily basis the men and women of the oil and gas industry in colorado who make the oil and gas industry run. geologists, engineers, other technical experts. because the oil and gas business is fundamentally a scientific enterprise. without the science of geology, you don't know where to get the oil and the gas and you don't know how to bring a well to bring the oil and gas to the surface to turn it into the energy and consum

if they want to see bugsy siegel under a rock, they stay here. >> is this a mr. uld probably be this guy. former mayor oscar goodman, a man who knows, allegedly and to the best of my knowledge, where all the bodies are buried. some of them, equally allegedly, by some of his former clients. we meet over drinks at oscar's, the steakhouse that bears his name and boasts beef, booze, and broads. >> you had some colorful clients. who was nice, who was less fun? >> the truth about it is, all my clients were nice to me because i kept them out of prison. >> my mother used to say, oscar's clients don't hurt anybody. they just kill each other. and she also said, oscar's clients take us to the best restaurants. >> they knew where to go? >> yeah. and always treated her right. always treated like kings and queens. >> did the feds hold it against you? you were just doing your job. >> they didn't see it that way. they thought i was the consigliere. that's how stupid these people were. >> these were gentlemen not unknown to mayor goodman. >> many people say vegas was a better plac

keeping everybody busy, because he knew that the siegel most important thing was what he said in a letter to the wall street journal -- don't worry, mr. supreme leader, the united states will not do anything on the ground in serial to harm assad. this is the guarantee he gave to khamenei. if you look now, for a couple of years, we have been arming and training the syrian opposition and have spent $500 million on training. we produced what? actuallyrs who have signed a declaration saying that they won't do anything to harm assad. nowhere has president obama gone out in public and said, i'm not going to do anything to harm assad because i made this promise to khamenei, because i don't want to do anything to throw a wrench in the works of the iran deal or because i want to coordinate with iran in the region. he hasn't said that publicly and he hasn't told that to his officials in the syria meeting where everything is going around. he let that meeting go around and around and around and finally, when the national security -- the major members of the national security council said, we should arm the opposition, he said, no, i don't want t

everybody busy, because he knew that the siegel most important -- the single most important thing was what he said in a letter to the wall street journal -- don't worry, mr. supreme leader, the united states will not do anything on the ground in syria to harm assad. this is the guarantee he gave to khamenei. if you look now, for a couple of years, we have been arming and training the syrian opposition and have spent $500 million on training. we produced what? 54 soldiers who have actually signed a declaration saying that they won't do anything to harm assad. nowhere has president obama gone out in public and said, i'm not going to do anything to harm assad because i made this promise to khamenei, because i don't want to do anything to throw a wrench in the works of the iran deal or because i want to coordinate with iran in the region. he hasn't said that publicly and he hasn't told that to his officials in the syria meeting where everything is going around. he let that meeting go around and around and around and finally, when the national security -- the major members of the national security council said, we should arm the opposition, he said, no, i don