. >> benjamin siegel, portfolio manager, and brian levitz, senior investment strategist at oppenheim oppenheimer. is mr. eisman right in the sense because of the elimination in large part of massive amounts of leverage in the system we aren't set up for any sort of a shock along the lines of what we saw in the financial crisis, that's just off the table from now on. >> yeah, i think that's right. people are so prepared to believe that what happened most recently will happen in the future. just because that happened in 2008, that was a once in nine decade experience. there's not that leverage in the system. people worry about market corrections. market corrections happen all the time. we had a 16% market correction from the end -- the middle of 2015 into 2016. so you might see some volatility pick up in markets, but to think we're going to have a systemic collapse and a financial crisis like in 2008 is the height of hyperbole in my opinion. >> benjamin, in terms of valuations, you are actual ly still saying that things look better overseas in terms of allocations. >> yeah, hi. i actually agree with that